Westboro Baptist Church Interview On Anonymous Threat/Hoax, Calls Host “Little Girl”

Westboro Baptist Church Interview On Anonymous Threat/Hoax, Calls Host “Little Girl”


Announcer: The David Pakman Show at www.DavidPakman.com. David: Welcome back to the show. It has been
reported that the hacking group Anonymous, which was involved in Wikileaks sent a letter
to the Westboro Baptist Church indicating that they would be targeting the Westboro
Baptist Church. Westboro Baptist Church, of course of “God Hates Fags” fame, responded
basically saying bring it on. Earlier today, we actually interviewed Shirley
Phelps-Roper from the Westboro Baptist Church. Now, just after that, there were some allegations
made, including a letter, again allegedly written by Anonymous saying hey, it’s all
well and good that you told us to bring it, but the original letter was a hoax. At this
point, we don’t know exactly what the truth is. We know that it may be a hoax, we don’t
know if the hoax was perpetrated by the Westboro Baptist Church or by a third party or if it’s
for real. The interview itself is pretty interesting, and Shirley says a lot of fascinating things,
so we’re going to run it for you now, but again, we are aware that this may not be exactly
what it has been presented to be. So I saw this letter that was sent to you
from Anonymous, the notorious hacking internet group, and then I also saw the response in
huge letters, in typical Westboro fashion, that you put together. Are you not scared
at all of these threats? Shirley Phelps-Roper: You mean should we be
more afraid of lawless, cowardly, hidden rebels than we are afraid of a lawless federal judiciary,
or perhaps lawless police officers who arrest you before the eyes of everyone right in broad
daylight? You think we ought to be more afraid of the cowards hidden in the corner than we
are of them? No, my dear, God’s arm is not shortened. His ear is not deaf. David: Have they already taken your website
down, though? I think… I couldn’t even get on your website all day today. Phelps-Roper: Oh, come on! David: I think they’ve already taken it down. Phelps-Roper: You know what? I’ve been on
that website again and again and again today. David: I typed in this morning and just before
we got this interview started www.GodHatesFags.com, and the website is just down. Has Anonymous
already taken it down? Phelps-Roper: Of course they have not taken
it down. I’m sitting here looking at the website. David: All right. Well, I don’t know, you
must have some… Phelps-Roper: Now, what they have done… David: Yeah? Phelps-Roper: Is increase traffic greatly.
Look, don’t you know that God delivers his people, and sometimes they don’t have to do
a thing? In fact, truly, we don’t ever have to do a thing, but because we’re humans, we
start trying to find devices or something to help the process. Hun, they’ve made a terrible
mistake. They have done this mischief against their own interests. They need to understand
that they are exactly like the Pharaoh of Egypt when Egypt was the most powerful nation
in the world. [Inaudible] David: And do you want to put– are you putting
Anonymous on notice that God will punish them if they carry out these acts against your
website? Phelps-Roper: Honey, he already is and he
has and he will. David: OK. OK. Phelps-Roper: What’s going to happen is things
are going to happen to those little cowards, because some people know who they are, and
it’s going to cause the ears of them that hear it to tingle. They’ve made a terrible
mistake, and they’re not going to do anything to us at all. David: I’ve interviewed, recently I spoke
to your brother Nate Phelps, and he talked a lot about the abuse from your father Fred
Phelps unto his children. Can you address that at all? Phelps-Roper: Well, I suppose I can address
that. Now, you call it abuse… David: No, he called it abuse. Phelps-Roper: Well, you just called it abuse,
hun. You just called it abuse. David: Well, I’m paraphrasing him, yes. Phelps-Roper: Yeah, well, whatever. David: OK. Phelps-Roper: Potato, potahto. David: [Laughs] Right. Phelps-Roper: Here’s what it is. You’re supposed
to spank your children. You’re supposed to teach them with words, and if that doesn’t
work, it says nurture and admonition. That’s what you’re supposed to do. David: So if I gather, to summarize… Phelps-Roper: Every once in a while, you’ve
got to give your child a spanking. No, to summarize, say this: David: Yeah. Phelps-Roper: This generation doesn’t talk
about spanking children, and the fact they don’t, that’s why they have groups like Anonymous
running around. Just connect these amazing dots. You raise your children telling them
that God is a big fat liar and his Commandments are on the table for disposal… David: Hold on, let me… I just want to make
sure we stay on point here. You’re not deny– Phelps-Roper: I am on point! You’re not listening. David: Shirley, Shirley, hold on a second. Phelps-Roper: Over not listening. David: I listened. Phelps-Roper: I’m telling you that when you
don’t teach your children exactly like their creator told you to do it, remember, he created
the children. David: This is making you upset. I’m sorry.
I… Phelps-Roper: This isn’t making me upset! David: So Shirley, I think I hear you. Phelps-Roper: [Inaudible] needed a lot more
than he got. David: Let me… so let me follow up with
that. What… is it fair to say, then, that the allegations that Nathan Phelps made on
this show are true, you just do not consider them to be, quote, “abuse”, you believe that
it is spanking in accordance with the Bible? Phelps-Roper: Well, of course, I didn’t hear
the allegations, so if he said anything that sounds like something other than a spanking
when he needed it, then he lied. So I’m not going to adopt what he said; I didn’t hear
what he said, how can I adopt it? And by the way, I know that he said some things that
weren’t true, because I was doing a radio program over that Arizona stuff with a guy
who syndicates in six states, and I can’t think of his name right now, and we got near
the end, and he was so angry because he had agreed to be civil, because I’ve done his
show before, and he’s not civil. David: Well, you know I am always civil to
you. Phelps-Roper: Yeah, but here’s what he said. David: OK. Phelps-Roper: He got so angry near the end,
he blurts out why are you saying that God is coming on some July date in 2012? David: Yeah, what about that? Phelps-Roper: Excuse me. I said we didn’t
say that. He said yes, you said it. I said no, we didn’t say that! Well, he said enough
words that it led me down the trail to look, and before long, I found the source was you
talking to Dummy, you talking to a rebel like you. So you rebels apparently were busy tossing
bouquets back and forth and making it up as you went along. David: Well, no, Shirley, let’s not filibuster.
I mean, just tell me, Nate Phelps mentioned, your estranged brother, he mentioned this
July 2012 thing. I mean, it’s not a matter of something I brought up. Just tell me, is
there anything there or not? Does July 2012 have any significance to you? Phelps-Roper: Not any significance to me,
and I don’t have any idea where he got that date. David: OK. Well, we’re just clearing it up. Phelps-Roper: I don’t know. He worked that
out for himself. He worked that out for himself. But what we believe is that by the signs of
the times that are falling out in front of us, that the time has grown very, very short. David: How short? I mean, can you tell me
how short? Phelps-Roper: Hun, I can tell you that those
prophecies are coming on a pace. The shakings are going on already over in the Middle East.
I mean… David: Shakings? Phelps-Roper: Shakings. God-shakes. Call them
God-shakes. They’re already chanting it in their streets. David: You know, Shirley, I’m getting… If
I can interject, I’m kind of, correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m getting the sense that
you’re kind of almost getting tired of your own shtick. Am I wrong about that? I mean,
you seem almost like you’re getting bored with the Westboro Baptist Church routine,
almost, yourself. Phelps-Roper: Hun, I’m bored with your silliness,
and I do have to get up to the hospital before long because my new granddaughter’s coming. David: All right, well, let’s just find–
how soon will the granddaughter be inducted into the God Hates Fags, God Hates People
stuff? Phelps-Roper: Inducted? What does that mean? David: You know, brought in, start to– taught
that type of rhetoric? Phelps-Roper: That rhetoric. Yipes. Only a
dumbo would call the Word of God “rhetoric”. Here’s what we do, and here’s what all my
children, all my children… David: I want… this is good, because I want
to figure out, maybe this is even– counts as abuse. So please, explain the process. Phelps-Roper: Yikes. Exactly. Nate would love
that. David: But just how soon is she taught God
hates fags? How soon? Phelps-Roper: Excuse me. The first time that
she’ll sit in the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ is next Sunday, and from that day forth,
every day of her life, line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little,
all of her days, she will understand her duty. When she comes to years, if the Lord tarries,
she will decide if she’s going to obey and serve God, or if she’s going to go her way
and be a rebel. And by and by, she’ll be a rebel like Nate, because their conscience,
they will spend their days with their conscience kicking their ass. David: And what about the child out of wedlock? Phelps-Roper: Here’s the deal, little girl,
here’s the deal: that child will decide, and if she goes her way like my number two son
did, she’ll slip away under cover of darkness, do you understand, not kicked out, she’ll
go her own way. You’re free to be a rebel, but you cannot be a rebel living in your father’s
house when the policy is you have to obey. David: Is there a case to be made that there
should be police involvement here? Is there child abuse going on, Shirley? Phelps-Roper: Yikes. Dude, you know the answer
to that, and your angry, ill-tempered, irrelevant, and impudent questions that you intend to
be insulting aren’t… they don’t get any play. David: There’s no insult. I’m just, I’m fascinated
by it all. Phelps-Roper: No, you’re not fascinated, you’re
a rebel. You might be fascinated, but you’re more angry than you are anything else. David: All right, well, Shirley, I’m going
to… Phelps-Roper: That’s your little temper. David: We’ll wrap up. I know your granddaughter
is coming. Please, just consider not involving her in the God Hates Fags stuff. Just consider
it is all I’m saying. Phelps-Roper: Yikes. Whatever I want is irrelevant,
because… David: It’s what God wants. Phelps-Roper: Her father and her mother are
going to make the call about how she’s raised. David: All right, so thanks, I think, to Shirley
Phelps-Roper for coming on. We will hear in the next hours and days, was this all a hoax
or not? Regardless, always strange and fascinating to speak to Shirley, I would say. Louis: Well, I think we’re past the strange
part. We’re used to that now. But it’s pretty fascinating. David: [Laughs] All right. We’ll take a break.
Make sure you are going to hear today’s bonus show, www.DavidPakman.com/membership. You
are not going to believe the situation that Louis’s heavy metal band has gotten involved
in. I don’t even still understand it, but I know our audience is going to love it. www.DavidPakman.com/membership.
We’ll take a break, we’ll come back, still plenty more on today’s David Pakman Show. Transcript provided by Alex Wickersham and
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100 thoughts on “Westboro Baptist Church Interview On Anonymous Threat/Hoax, Calls Host “Little Girl”

  1. Not to be mean, but your tone might be why the anon are hacking. Don't say potato POTATOE or calling them cowards or yelling.

  2. yeah but on the other interview she was cursing and her grandson or son was in the room you think god dont see that what is she teaching

  3. My god I hate people like that it's like all they do is talk about god this god that I'm fucking atheist and if ANYONE comes up to me in person speaking of god I will fucking shove a banana up there ass and tell them to go fuck themselves and one more think if you think there's such a holy place why don't you just die and go there you annoying little basterds

  4. Fred Phelps was a accomplished lawyer before he stared WBC, he championed black rights in the 1960's. He started that church as a money grabbing cult, no one in that family is stupid, the witch appearing on this show has a law degree…the whole family are just demented & evil. Twisted minds.

  5. Any christian who agree's to foulmouth on a video such as this in this fashion is losing sight of true christian faith..ouch do not count all this as christian..God does not need to debate his truth, those who know truth hear his voice. John 10:27 please we do not spout hate, but we do make personal choices regarding our faith, and hate mongering is not one of them, a true prophet of God recieves better instruction then "Hate Debate" sorry WBC, but you need to focus on your own than those otherwise.

  6. Shirley please read the Sermon on the mount, Mathew 5:44..i pray that the Lord Increases your understanding, do not preach prophecy to those who do not follow his voice..please your lack of humility is staggering

  7. People are fucking stupid "gods gonna punish them" no hes not so shut the fuck up. If kids dont get spanked like god wanted you to do we wouldnt have people like anon. Haha thats like saying if they were taught to belive in god people wouldnt murder yet how are the crusades justified? People just belive because they dont want to die and just die they want to go to a fairytale land.

  8. MRS SHELBY:::i HOPE GOD´S ARMS WILL TAKE YOU TOMORROW:::::AND YOUR KIDS::::AND EVERYBODY YOU LOVE……..America!!!!!!!!!!!!! don`t give People like that a platform. I am from Germany…I know what I`m talking about.  

  9. What pisses me off is this wolf in sheep's clothing is making a mockery of my faith. What shes doing is flipping the Old Testament laws with the New Testament ones. But, one thing she forgot as her daddy raped her was that there is only one true law and it's Love your neighbor as yourself. So deep down she must really hate herself cause shes taking it out on people who don't need anymore shit. And as for the whole protesting at funeral's of fallen soldiers just remember, that they give her the freedoms by what she's allowed to do but, saying they deserve to die, that's messed up. They have a job to do and they do it, One key piece you're missing here Miss. Phelps is that when you die, its going to be alone and cold, without any loved ones and no faith to keep you. You'll be a forgotten stain in an empty plot in some back hole town cause your family wont care where you end up. 

  10. This Bitch is fucking crazy let people be gay let people be lesbians as long as they are happy this bitch is probably one her self

  11. This bitch deserves to burn.
    Remember when women had a task to be seen but not heard.
    We need a time machine to send this bitch back to that time.

  12. god shakes sounds like an protein shake haha
    fucking religious nut she act's like she has took mdma all her life while looking at a picture of jesus with a gun  

  13. She thinks shes right because she says hon. Everything is potato potahto to her when its not the fucking same thing at all.

  14. You don't EVER spank your children, BITCH! Never listen to anything against what CCTDaily said: www.crunchyroll.com/forumtopic-877315/the-truth-about-corporal-punishment-proof

  15. Mr. Pakman, I admire your ability to remain calm in these interviews with that woman. I am getting mad just listening to her.

  16. And keep it up david, you're very professional at what you're doing ~ meaning that you stay calm after she tries to test your temper.

  17. It's not just Nate Phelps that has testified to the sever beatings (defiantly not spankings) Mark Phelps Chandler and his wife and Dortha Bird (both also estranged Phelps children) have testified to the exact same things

  18. And she said her "number two" son left, not just him, but also her oldest son too and two of her daughters (Megan and Grace) have also left

  19. A bratty old lady using the Lord for an excuse by saying it was her power that brought the website back up when it was really mercy.

  20. These people should not be given any media attention….THEY are worthless pieces of human garbage ! (The Westboro cult members) it's too bad there's no hell for them to go to…

  21. You should have asked that douche bag if she believes so much in the word of "God" would she stone to death her precious granddaughter if she were to rebel against their church. It clearly says in the bible that rebellious children should be stoned to death.

  22. She calls him ill-tempered but she the angry one saying all these insults hope she gets what's coming to her.

  23. She is so angry all the time .. Such a violent and constant hatred for humanity I've never seen before. It's monstrous and bewildering.

  24. I am Zion. The son of god. and I can tell you that she is a horrible woman and should not be preaching the word of god.

  25. There is a difference between spanking and abuse. She is an abusive person and it is clear for rational people to see that. I guarantee she reflects this attitude all the time to her children, constantly looking for an argument and to preach fear into the hearts of anyone that hears. God is judging her, and I believe it is not well. She does not preach love. Only fear and hate. I pray for her children to learn from her hate and move away from it and learn true beauty of god. Not religious nonsense which just turns people into people like this. Spirituality is god. Religion is man.

  26. God hates nobody, stop manipulating everything and everyone in your favour. Hate is a really strong word.
    "Yikes," you really know how to be irritating and rude.

  27. True Biblical Christianity Explained

    God hates sin and requires blood to pay for it because blood is life. God sends sin to hell. Once sin is paid for God no longer sees sin when He looks at the person.

    During the different times of the Bible there were different ways for paying for sin. All sin must be paid for by a blood sacrifice done by a priest on an alter. There was the remission of sins before the death and resurrection of Jesus and salvation after.

    Under the Law in the Old Testament the Jews had to have a priest sacrifice an animal on an alter to pay for their sins. This only covered sins they had done in the past and when they sinned again they had to do another sacrifice. Under God's Law the Jews could only pay for the remission of sins through works.

    God sent Jesus as the Messiah and Savior for the Jewish people. The Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah and had Him crucified when Pilate was willing to let Him go.

    When Jesus was crucified God made the ultimate blood sacrifice of His only begotten Son. The cross was the alter, Jesus is the Lamb of God and is the High Priest. Everything necessary to pay for sin in the Old Testament was met by the death of Jesus. Unlike the blood sacrifices that were made under the Law by the Jewish people the Sacrifice of the Lamb of God paid for ALL sin past, present and future.

    Because the Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah God opened up Salvation to the gentiles. God put on hold the promise of the land of Israel as was given to their father Abraham. The Jews lost their land and wandered the world without a country for approximately two thousand years until Israel became a nation again May 14th 1948.

    This started the church age which we are in today. In the church age salvation is by the grace of God through faith alone. There is nothing you have to do to be saved other than believe having faith that Jesus died for your sins and was resurrected according to the scriptures. When you believe you are sealed with the holy Spirit of promise and become a new creature in Christ. Most importantly you receive the gift of eternal life!

    When you rightly divide the word of truth you see that the apostle to the gentiles is Paul who gives us our gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

    2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV)
    Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 (KJV)
    1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

    2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

    3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

    4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

    Romans 6:23 (KJV)
    23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Ephesians 1:13 (KJV)
    13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

    2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV)
    17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Ephesians 2:8-9 (KJV)
    8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

    9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    At the end of the church age God is going to go back to dealing with the Jews in the last promised week, referred to in scripture as Daniels seventieth week or the time of Jacob's trouble. The last prophecy before this time is the signing of the seven year peace treaty with Israel which will seal the building of Israel's third temple.

    Before God deals with the Jews in the time of Jacob's trouble Jesus is going to come and take His bride away. This is what's referred to as the Rapture. The dead in Christ, so people that died who's sins were paid for with the blood of Jesus, will rise first and be given incorruptible bodies. Then those of us that are alive will be caught up to meet Him in the air and given immortal bodies. Also all innocence will be taken meaning children and people that don't have the mental capacity to understand.

    We the bride will then get taken to Heaven for the wedding supper while the world starts a seven year tribulation period which is Daniel's seventieth week. One day with the Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand years is as one day which makes one Biblical week equal seven years.

    Once the rapture happens the Jews will go back to doing animal blood sacrifices in their temple to pay for sins. At the mid point of the tribulation period, Daniel's seventieth week, the Man of Sin will enter into the Jewish temple and force the blood sacrifices to stop. Then the Man of Sin will receive a deadly wound to his right arm and eye and will then resurrect as Satan in the flesh, the Son of Perdition. He will be given powers to do miracles and wonders so he may fool even the very elect. At that point all will have to take his mark and worship his image. God's Wrath is pored out on the earth at this point with the arrival of the two witnesses and will continue until the battle of Armageddon.

    In the Old Testament Elijah had the power to cause it to not rain. Moses parted the red sea and has control over the waters. Moses also had the power to do the plagues in the Old Testament. Both Moses and Elijah were in receipt of God using fire to smite people for them.

    It says in Revelation that the two witness's are given powers; to shut up the heavens and stop it from raining, to turn the water to blood, and to do cast the plagues on the earth as often as the wish. They also come with a defense that if anybody attacks them they breath fire and kill their attacker. The witnesses of Revelation 11 will be Moses and Elijah.

    Once the witnesses finish their testimony the Son of Perdition will kill them. They will lay dead for three and a half days before the Spirit of God will enter their bodies and they will stand. They will then ascend into Heaven on a cloud.

    At the end of the tribulation, the last three and a half years being referred to as the great tribulation, Jesus will come with an army to destroy the armies of the Antichrist. It will be when all the armies of the Antichrist are moving on Israel. They will be in one place so that God can destroy them. We His bride will be in His army and fight at the battle of Armageddon. He will then cast the Antichrist along with anyone who took his mark alive into the lake of fire.

    Once the battle of Armageddon is over Jesus will set up His Kingdom of Heaven on earth and rule for a thousand years of peace during which time huge changes will happen like the animals being harmless and having their “tongues loosed”. Satan will get cast into the bottomless pit for a thousand years so he may deceive the nations no more. Once the thousand years is up Satan will be let loose for a short time so the people on earth that never knew what it was like to be tempted can experience it. Then Satan and Hell will be cast into the lake of fire. God will destroy the earth by fire at the end of the Millennial Reign and will create a new heaven and a new earth where there is no more sea where we will be forever with the Lord.

  28. some thing out there is real I agree but I disagree with the writun words and what we are lead to believe it is all a lie… they try to put us in groups  theses 'so called religions'  to control us tell us to work to do what they want to. speak how they want us to do.. think how they want us to.. they want us to not have a voice to not speak out when we disagree… they want us to believe that if we do wrong we will get punshed… what is the punishment for you who can lie cheat and deceived kill others by ur believes and in the name of ur god infact the bible isn't writun by him itself its writun by man… over the years more and more people are coming out with the freedom of speech our thoughts are our own alone not on the so called bible.. if god was real why would it be writun that And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues;   they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover .  Mark 16:17-18:Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.” Luke 10:19“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I go to the Father  JohnOf course none of the things promised by Jesus are true. You do not receive “whatever you ask for in prayer”,  you cannot “drink deadly things and they will not hurt you”, you cannot “lay your hands on the sick” and have them recover. Oh you who believe in Jesus and who pray in his name, can you do any of the things Jesus promises you can do? Of course you can’t. Why not?  Jesus promised you couldif ur jesus exist what u believe in then why are nuns and prists getting murder I don't think anyone has prayerd and asked for that no one does any one deserve to die like that ur god may not be real ur believes are based unpon twisted people who wants the control and all of the above oragniseions comes down to the one u all want control    this is our rights and apart of being human we wouldn't b nothing if we never spoke out if we didn't have our own minds    iam we are free and will always be free we speak out if we see wronglyfful things we will be heared…. ur dieases r man made there is proof out there of it

  29. lol lawless notorious rebels'  uhm is she trying to call the amazing anonymous group this, or admitting that's what her and her cult are?

  30. God's Messenger Marshall Vian Summers admonishes people not to teach their children religion, because "it is very important that they learn to listen within themselves and respect their own experience."

  31. In a way I hope I die seconds before this bitch just so I can piss myself laughing when she gets to the pearly gates and St Peter says "fuck off you delusional nutter"

  32. As soon as she turned it into personal insults, she lost any objectivity or percieved moral high ground (if you can even bloody call it that) and lost the argument. Then again, what do you expect from a fanatic…

  33. Bitch! I hope you and your group gets riddled with bullets! We'll see if you still have the ovaries to protest, you bitter old shit head! Don't say you're a Christian cuz you like your father will be roasting like pig in hell, bitch!

  34. Dear David Packman. I don't know how to reach you through messages other than on here. I'll make this shot. I need your help to contact someone from Anonymous please. Message me at my Google account if you are willing and I will explain why there. It's nothing shady if that's what your concerned, the subject matter is just sensitive.

  35. That's David Pakman's brilliant strategy!! Just give them a microphone and let them hang themselves. Simple strategy, very effective!

  36. That's David Pakman's brilliant strategy!! Just give them a microphone and let them hang themselves. Simple strategy, very effective!

  37. She's heading to the hospital to meet her new granddaughter. Can you imagine how the hospital staff cringes when this bitch shows up.

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