The Psychology Behind an Efficient Capitalist System | Jordan B Peterson on the Jocko Podcast

The Psychology Behind an Efficient Capitalist System | Jordan B Peterson on the Jocko Podcast


Si tiranizas a la gente lo suficiente, buscarán la
forma de lastimarse a sí mismos para dañarte a ti. Están dispuestos a sufrir para reclamar justicia. Es algo que realmente vale la pena saber. Una de las cosas que señaló Jean Piaget, es un psicólogo muy interesante pero sus ideas no se enseñan como es debido. Muchos de los grandes pensadores
fueron personas muy raras y la rareza queda excluida de su historia lo cual está muy mal porque son mucho más
interesantes cuando sabes cuán extraños eran. Piaget estaba obsesionado con la
disyunción entre la religión y la ciencia y su meta como pensador era reconciliar ambas. Hasta cierto punto, él estaba buscando
una base biológica para la moralidad esa es una forma de pensarlo, o al menos buscaba conciliar la idea del
sustrato biológico con la moral emergente. Y una de las cosas que dijo
fue: imagina dos sistemas. Ambos sistemas avanzan hacia
una meta, cualquier meta arbitraria, y dentro en un sistema las personas actúan por coacción y dentro del otro sistema, las
personas actúan voluntariamente. Él dijo que las personas que actúan voluntariamente superarían a las que son coaccionadas porque para poder usar coacción,
debes invertir mucho tiempo y energía en aplicar la fuerza, lo que te vuelve ineficiente. Mientras que si todos cooperan en el proyecto, entonces no tienes que invertir tiempo en forzarlos porque las personas se obligan a sí mismas. Llamó a eso un estado equilibrado. Un estado equilibrado es sentarnos a negociar, una negociación real, tiene que ser honesta y decimos “¿Qué demonios estamos haciendo?”. Lo discutimos entre todos, decidimos lo que hacemos y luego decidimos cómo será
eso bueno para todos nosotros y para cada uno individualmente también. Si tu familia está bien organizada entonces toda la familia avanza unida, y cada miembro de la familia avanza también, todos hacia la misma.. Sabes cómo funcionan las negociaciones. Realmente quieres que tus intereses
coincidan con los de la otra persona porque así ya no tienes que preocuparte
sobre la integridad del acuerdo; todos tienen razones para hacerlo prosperar. La idea de que el capitalismo
de alguna manera está basado en la tiranía de los que están en la cima, eso sucede cuando se corrompe. Pero no sucede en absoluto
cuando funciona correctamente porque los acuerdos que no están basados en intereses
propios mutuos e intereses de grupo simultáneamente tienen que ser impuestos normalmente con abogados y entonces estás acabado en ese momento.

20 thoughts on “The Psychology Behind an Efficient Capitalist System | Jordan B Peterson on the Jocko Podcast

  1. Yesterday my sister in law bought a care pack for our children who are having teething issues, fevers, vomiting and crap attitude. She bought the products on line here in New Zealand, with her cash over in the U.K. that care pack made it here the next day and everyone along the way who made that possible was paid for their contribution along the way.

    Thats almost Fucking magical. Thats the beauty and freedom of capitalism. I tread carefully around anyone that wants to tear this system down.

  2. People being compelled was what Aldous Huxley's was talking about in Brave New World, but it was being used for a negative instead of a positive https://youtu.be/JXvtObVwE6s

    What's interesting is in the video I posted, Huxley's main reason he gave for the manipulation of society was population control.

    Brave New World is here. From the sexualization of society so they can't form healthy interpersonal relationships to the government regulation of what people can say and think. Public schools have become Huxley's hatcheries. The one thing Huxley didn't see coming was sterilization through the transgender movement. It wouldn't be a bad thing, if they weren't taking patents rights away.

  3. Imagine if JBP added a stronger familiarity with catallactics (economics), more so than he already alludes. He would be more deadly than he already is…towards bad ideas.

    "Double Coincidences of Wants"
    "2. Markets and Prices | Lucas M. Engelhardt" 
    https://youtu.be/e8nZDhFIjps

  4. Basic concept of The Wealth of Nations described very well here. Individualism as the idea of the butcher helping himself and so doing helping out the rest of society as well.

  5. ''A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.”
    Aldous Huxley

  6. I'm looking to further learn about Mr. Peterson's ideas on the importance of agency and the concept of a belief system faced with post-modernism. Could anyone direct me towards one of his books? Or is all this dispersed throughout his channel?

  7. It's a rather interesting idea that non-free countries are worse off because they have to use a lot of energy on compulsion. It makes you wonder if the rise of tyrannies can be attributed to falling costs of implementing this compulsion. Surveillance has become a lot easier and cheaper with the digital age, and this has made it much easier to see what people are up to and even track them. Has this made tyranny more competitive over democracy?

  8. Corporatism, cronyism and government interference blocking competition are not capitalism, rather a form of Fascism. Corrupt officials protect favored businesses for personal enrichment and power. This process will eventually require the use of force to sustain. The United States is well down this path. The powerful groups supporting the shallow thinking Socialist movements are using this because then they will be the masters of the helpless masses.
    Death and misery will soon follow.

  9. The world would be a better place if had more people like Jordan Peterson. He tilts the scale to the greater good of humankind. His words have made me a better man.

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