Sean Parker, Chamath Palihapitiya – Facebook is 'Ripping Apart Society'

Sean Parker, Chamath Palihapitiya - Facebook is 'Ripping Apart Society'



when Facebook was getting going I had these people who would come up to me and they would say you know I'm not on social media and I would say okay you know you will be and then they would say they would say no no no no I value my real-life interactions I value the moment I value presence and I value intimacy and I would say well you're a conscientious objector that's okay you don't have to participate but you know we'll get you eventually and and and like I don't know if I really understood the consequences of what I was saying because it the onion of the unintended consequences of of a network when it grows to a billion or two billion people and it and it began and it it literally changes your relationship with society with each other with yeah yeah uh you know it it it probably interferes with productivity and weird ways it god only knows what it's doing to to our children's brains you know if the if the thought process that went into building these applications Facebook being the first of them to really understand it that thought process was all about how do we consume as much of your time and conscious attention as possible and that means that we need to sort of give you a little dopamine hit every once in a while because someone liked or commented on a photo or a post or whatever and that's going to get you to contribute more content and that's going to get you you know more likes and comment so it's a it's a valid it's a social validation feedback loop that that it's like I mean it's exactly the kind of thing that a that a hacker like myself would come up with because you're exploiting a vulnerability in in human psychology and I just I think that we you know we the inventors creators you know I mean it's it's me it's mark it's the you know Kevin Systrom and Instagram it's all of these people understood this consciously and we did it anyway that culture is missing here so part of what we're trying to do to achieve those goals it's like take really big audacious points of view on the world and then train ourselves to be patient and it's really really hard the entire society is set up to not be patient anymore and I'm hearing also a conflict with this like fail-fast and learn mentality where if if you're taking a deep and big bet like you want it to be the right one how do you know when that's true I think that that's fail-fast approach works in consumer internet businesses but I don't think it works for anything that really matters basically consumer internet businesses are about exploiting psychology and that is one where you want to feel fast because you know people aren't predictable and so we want to psychologically figure out how to manipulate you as fast as possible and then give you back that dopamine hit we did that brilliantly at Facebook Instagram has done it whatsapp has done it you know snapchat has done it Twitter has done it so there are great examples we chat has doing it there are great examples of failing fast is the right path to exploiting psychology of mass populations of people I want to bring us back to the point that you were making about exploiting consumer behavior in a consumer internet business you said that this is a time for soul-searching in social media businesses and and you were part of building the largest one what soul-searching are you doing right now on that I feel tremendous guilt I think we I think we all knew in the back of our minds even though we feigned this whole line of like there probably aren't any really bad unintended consequences I think in the back deep deep recesses of our minds we we kind of knew something bad could happen but I think the way we defined it was not like this it literally is a point now I think we have created tools that are ripping apart the social fabric of how society works that is truly where we are and I would encourage all of you as the future leaders of the world to really internalize how important this is if you feed the Beast that beast will destroy you if you push back on it we have a chance to control it and rein it in and it is a point in time where people need to hard break from some of these tools and the things that you rely on the short term dopamine driven feedback loops that we have created are destroying how society works no civil discourse no cooperation misinformation miss truth and it's not an American problem this is not about Russian ads this is a global problem so we are in a really bad state of affairs right now in my opinion it is it is eroding the core foundations of how people behave by and between each other and I don't have a good solution you know my solution is I just don't use these tools anymore I haven't for years it's created huge tension with my friends huge tensions in my social circles if you look at like you know my facebook for you I probably haven't I posted maybe two times in seven years three times five times it's like just it's less than ten and it's weird I guess I kind of just innately didn't want to get programmed and so I just tuned it out but I didn't confront it and now to see what's happening it's really it really it really bums me up like think about like there were these examples where there was a hoax in whatsapp where in some like village in India people were like afraid that their kids were gonna get kidnapped etc and then there were these lynchings that happened as a result where people were like vigilante running around they think they found the person and they I mean I mean seriously like that's what we're dealing with you know and imagine like when you take that to the extreme where you know bad actors can now manipulate large swaths of people to do anything you want it's just a it's a really really bad state of affairs and we compound the problem right we curate our lives around this perceived sense of perfection because we get rewarded in these short-term signals hearts likes thumbs up and we conflate that with value and week inflate it with truth and instead what it really is is fake brittle popularity that's short term and that leaves you even more and admit it vacant and empty before you did it because then it forces you into this vicious cycle where you're like what's the next thing I need to do now because I need it back think about that compounded by two billion people and then think about how people react then to the perceptions of others it's just a it's really bad it's really really bad it sounds like you're taking deep personal responsibility also in and being a part of it I kind of look I did it I did what I did a great job there and I think that business overwhelmingly does positive good in the world where I have decided to spend my time is to take the capital that they rewarded me with and now focus on the structural changes that I can control I can't control that I can control my decisions which is I don't use this I can control my kids decisions which is they're not allowed to use this and then I can go focus on diabetes and education and climate change that's what I can do but everybody else has to soul search a little bit more about what you're willing to do because your behaviors you don't realize it but you are being programmed it was unintentional but now you got to decide how much you're willing to give up how much of your intellectual independence and don't think oh yeah not me I'm genius I'm at Stanford you're probably the most likely to fall for it because you were check boxing your whole goddamn life no offense guys none taken slow and steady against heart problems start by turning off your social apps and giving your brain a break because then you will at least be a little bit more motivated to not be motivated by what everybody else thinks about you do you know what I'm saying it's hard think about how all this stuff plays together how does trying to get you know posting your waffles online relate to me starting a business and accumulating capital this is wiring your brain for super fast feedback it's the same brain you're using to build a company don't think they're not the same do you know what I'm saying no yes you've won great so you're training your brain here whether you think it or not whether you know it or not whether you acknowledge your not acknowledge that these things where you're spending hours a day are rewiring your psychology and physiology in a way that now you have to use to go and figure out how to be productive in the commercial world so if you don't change this you are going to get the same behaviors over here change this there's a reason why Steve Jobs was like anti social media I am Telling You I'm not on these apps I'm not him by any stretch of the imagination but I am proactively trying to rewire my brain chemistry to not be short-term focused I'm telling you they're linked tomorrow thank you so much for being here and [Applause] [Applause]

23 thoughts on “Sean Parker, Chamath Palihapitiya – Facebook is 'Ripping Apart Society'

  1. Very good revelations from Chamath Palihapitiya on his complicity in creating Facebook. Even though I signed up to Facebook many years ago I decided not to use it because of its lack of privacy. My concerns at that time have proven true.

  2. “If you feed the beast that beast will destroy you” fuck that, I’m glad I never caved in to this bull shit and downloaded any of there shit

  3. 4:23 – 5:06 (and further). In answer to this, for a more in depth analysis jump to 1:14:58 of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhh19cQukfg&t=0s&index=7&list=PLooLIkucor-d52e5twskQIsx4VeOMFwIf where Robert Lustig MD dissects the insidious effects of our dopamine driven culture, and provides an excellent alternative viewpoint and red-pill.
    In this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C74amJRp730 Tristan Harris discusses how Big Tech are now warping our minds and those of our young.

  4. You can and never will be able to take full responsibility for the damage you've done, Parker. Going off and working on "climate change" is the ultimate bullshit escape for destroying a generation. Your penance is that you must recant EVERYTHING you have done and taught – and spread this message at the cost of your own comfort. You have destroyed the lives of youths whom have taken their own lives, and the consequences are still not fully understood for the near future.

  5. in 6:20 talk about the hoax in whatsapp ,is exactly the situation in Mexico nowadays, with the lynchigs,is a huge problem 🙁

  6. Why are these kids laughing? He's talking about serious shit. He's telling them they're being programmed in a way to destroy their long term thinking ability and they're laughing? I honestly don't think this is nervous laughter. What it seems like to me is that they're not listening to what he's saying but externalizing his views as if they don't relate to them. Anybody who understands what he's saying here would not laugh. He's talking about the demise of society.

  7. I LOVE THIS… FB is the black hole of society. Ruins relationships, marriages, values and has changed society in such a negative way.

  8. Lol 70,024 views. Concentrated dumb videos of the type "What Happened Next" have more. OTOH, 1'180'205 views for Chamath Palihapitiya's talk at PMotykw0SIk. Oh, don't forget to throw out the TV, too.

  9. I was saying exactly this over 10 years ago! Yet all my friends thought I was bonkers :/ I was skeptical of Social Media from the very off…

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