Rock Church – Breaking the Silence on Mental Illness

Rock Church – Breaking the Silence on Mental Illness


HELLO ROCK CHURCH, HOW ARE
YOU DOING TODAY, GOOD MORNING, I WANT TO SAY HELLO TO ALL
CAMPUSES. ON NORTH COUNTY, EAST COUNTY,
CITY HEIGHTS, SAN YSIDRO. LORD, THANK YOU — THANK YOU FOR
BEING GOD. LORD, WOULD THANK YOU THAT YOU
LOVE US, LORD WE THANK YOU THAT YOU ARE THERE FOR US, ALL 24/7. WE PRAY FOR OUR CHURCH TODAY. PRAY FOR THE FEJERAN FAMILY. LORD I PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE TODAY
WHO YOU ARE GOING TO DELIVER. AND WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD
DELIVER PEOPLE TODAY. IN JESUS’ NAME, AMEN. ON MONDAY PAST, OUR WORSHIP
PASTOR IN SAN YSIDRO CAMPUS, WILL FEJERAN TOOK HIS LIFE. HE SERVED AS A VOLUNTEER. I HAVE KNOWN HIM FOR OVER 15
YEARS. AND DEDICATED HIS DAUGHTER. ONE OF THE FIRST BABIES THAT WE
DEDICATED HERE AT THE ROCK. THIS HAS BEEN A SHOCK TO
OBVIOUSLY HIS FAMILY. OUR CHURCH FAMILY. SAN YSIDRO CAMPUS. OUR PRAYERS GO OUT TO HIS WIFE,
HIS DAUGHTERS, HIS SONS. HIS PARENTS. HIS FAMILY. OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LOT OF
QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SITUATION, THAT’S HIS
FAMILY’S PRIVATE BUSINESS. BUT TODAY I WANT TO MINISTER TO
YOU. THE BEST I CAN. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE HIS FAMILY,
PSALM 53, WEEPING MAY ENDURE FOR A NIGHT, OR TWO NIGHTS, FOR
YEARS BUT JOY COMES IN THE MORNING. I REALIZE THAT MOST PEOPLE WHO
TAKE THEIR LIFE THEY SUFFER FROM SOME FORM OF MENTAL ILLNESS OR
DEPRESSION. 90%. SO WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
TODAY ARE THE PEOPLE LISTENING RIGHT NOW, IN OUR CHURCH, IN OUR
COMMUNITY. IF YOU ARE SUFFERING, AND THE
DEVIL HAS YOU SUFFERING ALONE IN SILENCE. WE HAVE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE ASK
SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MENTAL ILLNESS, SUICIDE, ETC.
AND TODAY THE BEST I CAN, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRUST GOD
AND NOT SUFFER IN SILENCE. WE WANT TO DO THE BEST WE CAN IN
ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU. TO GET THE HELP THAT GOD HAS FOR
YOU. I WANT TO READ A STORY TO YOU,
IF YOU TURN TO MARK CHAPTER 2. MARK CHAPTER 2, AS I WAS PRAYING
ABOUT WHAT TO SAY TODAY. GOD GAVE ME THIS STORY. VERY SIMPLE. I WANT TO READ IT TO YOU. MARK 2:1… A FEW DAYS LATER WHEN JESUS
AGAIN ENTERED CAPERNAUM THE PEOPLE HEARD THAT HE HAD COME
HOME. THEY GATHERED IN SUCH LARGE NUMBERS THAT THERE WAS NO
ROOM LEFT NOT EVEN OUTSIDE THE DOOR, AND HE PREACHED THE WORD
TO THEM. SOME MEN CAME, BRINGING TO HIM A
PARALYZED MAN, CARRIED BY FOUR MEN. CAN EVERYBODY SAY FOUR MEN. CAN EVERYBODY SAY FOUR MEN. SINCE THEY COULD NOT GET HIM TO
JESUS BECAUSE OF THE CROWD THEY MADE AN OPENING IN THE ROOF
ABOVE JESUS BY DIGGING THROUGH IT AND THEN LOWERED THE MAT THE
MAN WAS LYING ON. BUT THAT YOU MAY KNOW THAT THE
SON OF MAN HAS THE POWER ON EARTH TO FORGIVE SINS. WHEN JESUS SAY THEIR FAITH AND
HE SAID TO THE PARALYZED MAN, SON, YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN. NOW SOME TEACHERS OF THE LAW
WERE SITTING THERE, THINKING TO THEMSELVES, WHY DOES THIS FELLOW
TALK LIKE THAT? HE’S BLASPHEMING. WHO CAN FORGIVE SINS BUT GOD
ALONE? IMMEDIATELY JESUS KNEW IN HIS
SPIRIT THAT THIS WAS WHAT THEY WERE THINKING IN THEIR HEARTS
AND HE SAID TO THEM, WHY ARE YOU THINKING THESE THINGS? WHICH IS EASIER, TO SAY TO THIS
PARALYZED MAN, YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN OR TO SAY, GET UP TAKE
YOUR MAT AND WALK? BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THE
SON OF MAN HAS AUTHORITY ONE EARTH TO FORGIVE SINS. SO HE SAID TO THE PARALYTIC, I
SAY TO YOU RISE, TAKE UP YOUR BED AND GO TO YOUR HOUSE. IMMEDIATELY HE ROSE AND TOOK UP
HIS BED AND WENT IN THE PRESENCE OF THOSE, AND GLORIFIED BY GOD,
SAYING THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS BEFORE. IN THE STORY, THEY ARE HAVING A
BIBLE STUDY AND NO ONE CAN GET IN THE HOUSE. THERE IS A MAN PARALYZED AND
CANNOT GET TO JESUS. SO HIS FOUR FRIENDS PICK HIM UP
AND CARRIED HIM TO THE ROOF. ON THOSE DAYS THEY WOULD GO ON
TOP OF THE HOUSE, IT WAS COMMON TO GET TO THE ROOF OF THE HOUSE
FROM OUTSIDE. THEY TOOK HIM UP TO THE ROOF AND
IT WAS MADE OF CLAY AND STRAW. AND THEY SAID, WE WILL DIG A
HOLE IN THE ROOF AND LET YOU DOWN. I WAS NOT THERE OBVIOUSLY BUT
SURE THAT THE GUY SAYS, NO YOU ARE NOT, AND YOU ARE PARALYZED
AND WE WILL LOWER YOU TO JESUS. I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS STORY,
THESE FOUR FRIENDS AND EACH REPRESENTING A TRUTH ABOUT ALL
OF US. THAT ALL OF US ARE ON THAT
STRETCHER. ALL OF US ARE IN NEED OF HELP. NUMBER 1, WHAT YOU SUFFER FROM,
I SUFFER FROM. I KNOW THAT MENTAL ILLNESS HAS A
STIGMA THAT YOU HAVE TO, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GET A COUGH,
YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR. AND THERE IS MEDICINE FOR YOU. AND WHEN YOU GET CANCER, YOU GO
TO THE DOCTOR, AND THERE IS TREATMENT FOR YOU. WHEN YOU BREAK YOUR LEG, YOU GO
TO THE DOCTOR. BUT WHEN SOMEONE HAS MENTAL
ILLNESS, DEPRESSED, LONELY, BIPOLAR, AND I AM NOT APPLYING
ANY OF THESE THINGS TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR. BUT 90% OF PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM
THIS AND TAKE THEIR LIFE, AND SO MANY ARE WATCHING ONLINE AND
STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU. AND MANY PEOPLE FEEL TOO ASHAMED
TO TALK ABOUT IT, AND WE HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS. CAN YOU BE A LEADER AND SUFFER
FROM THIS, CAN GOD HEAL YOU? YES, GOD CAN HEAL YOU. IS IT WRONG TO GO TO A DOCTOR? IT’S NOT WRONG TO GO TO THE
DOCTOR. IF YOU BREAK YOUR LEG, YOU DON’T
JUST PRAY ABOUT IT. EVERYONE OF US ON THAT STRETCHER
IS IN NEED OF HELP. I JOHN 1:8 SAYS — I APOLOGIZE. IF WE CLAIM TO BE WITHOUT SIN,
WE DECEIVE OURSELVES AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN US. I HAVE TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE
WHO HAVE SUFFERED SILENTLY AND FEEL LIKE SOMETHING IS WRONG
WITH THEM AND CAN’T SHARE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, YOU
ARE A SINNER JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AND YOUR ILLNESS IS NOT A
SIN. IT’S NOT A SIN TO BE SICK. IT’S HUMAN. WE ARE ALL SINNERS AND IN A
SINFUL BODY THAT IS DECAYING. WHAT BREAKS MY HEART ARE THE
PEOPLE SUFFERING SILENTLY AND HEAR VOICES IN THEIR HEAD THAT
THE PROBLEM IS TOO BIG TO HANDLE. AND THAT THE ONLY SOLUTION IS
TAKING YOUR LIFE. TAKING YOUR LIFE IS NOT A VIABLE
SOLUTION. IT DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM. GOD DOES NOT WANT YOU TO DO
THAT. WE ALWAYS HAVE HOPE. MY DAUGHTER HAS SUFFERED FROM
DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY FOR 11 YEARS. SHE LIVES IN OUR HOUSE, WE LIVE
WITH IT EVERY DAY. SHE SPENDS DAYS AND DAYS ON A
REGULAR BASIS IN HER ROOM. IN HER HOLE AS THEY SAY. AND WE FELT SO HELPLESS TO FIX
IT. IT’S BEEN HELL FOR US. WE UNDERSTAND. SHE HAS HAD TIMES OF BEING
SUICIDAL. AND I HAVE STOOD UP HERE
PREACHING TO YOU AND AT TIMES KNOWING THAT SHE TOLD ME THAT
SHE WANTED TO END HER LIFE. THIS IS VERY REAL TO US. AND I KNOW IT’S REAL TO MANY OF
YOU OUT THERE. AND YOU DON’T NEED TO BE
ASHAMED. WE WANT TO CALL YOU AT THE END
OF THE SERVICE TO STEP OUT AND ASK FOR HELP. IF YOU ARE LONELY AND DEPRESSED. AND WHEN I GO PERISCOPE ONLINE,
MY LIVE VIDEO FEED I DO. PEOPLE SAY, I HAVE SO MUCH FEAR. IT’S A SPIRIT FROM THE DEVIL. HE’S A LIAR. AND HE WANTS TO DIVIDE AND
CONQUER AND DESTROY YOUR LIFE. BUT GOD GIVES YOU HOPE. AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US ARE
IN THIS WITH YOU. AND AS THEY CARRIED THIS GUY,
THEY WERE TELLING THIS GUY, I COULD EASILY BE ON THAT
STRETCHER. TODAY IS MY DAY TO HELP YOU. AND I WANT TO TELL YOU, WHAT YOU
HAVE WE HAVE. YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE ASHAMED. IF I SAY I SUFFER FROM THIS AND
THAT AND CAN’T BE IN LEADERSHIP AND SERVE, THAT IS GARBAGE. I WAKE UP MANY DAYS NOT WANTING
TO GET OUT OF BED. I WAKE UP MANY DAYS HEARING YOU
ARE A FAILURE, IT’S NOT WORKING. ALL THE TIME. BUT YET GOD! BUT YET GOD. YOU HAVE TO FIGHT THAT BATTLE
EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT MANY
DON’T HEAR THAT, YOU ARE NOT ALONE. THE BIBLE SAYS YOU WILL NEVER BE
BURDENED WHERE YOU CAN’T TAKE IT AND REACH OUT TO GOD AND
SOMEBODY. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU ALL
WATCHING FACEBOOK AND LOOK AT THIS NEWS AND HOW EVERYONE
ELSE’S LIFE IS SO GREAT. AND YOUR VOICE SAYS THAT YOUR
ISN’T SO GREAT. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHAT
YOU ARE READ IS NOT TRUE. I AM NOT SAYING THAT PEOPLE
DON’T HAVE STUFF IN THEIR LIFE. BUT DON’T COMPARE TO OTHER
PEOPLE, YOU WERE NOT MADE TO BE THAT. GOD WANTS YOU TO BE WHO HE
CALLED YOU TO BE. DON’T LET THE DEVIL GET YOU
CONFUSED. WE WANT TO HELP. PEOPLE THINK IF I AM DEPRESSED,
I’M GOING CRAZY. ANYBODY HERE NOT CRAZY? [LAUGHTER] RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU EVER
THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING CRAZY. COME ON NOW. AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING,
THIS IS A FACT, IF YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING CRAZY, YOU ARE NOT
CRAZY. ONLY TRUE CRAZY PEOPLE DON’T
THINK THEY ARE CRAZY. THINKING YOU ARE CRAZY IS A SIGN
YOU ARE SANE. FOR REAL, I TELL MY WIFE ALL THE
TIME I AM GOING CRAZY — YEAH, MAYBE FOR YOU. DEPRESSION, MENTAL ILLNESS,
BIPOLAR, IS AN ILLNESS, IT’S NOT SIN. THERE IS NOTHING TO BE ASHAMED
OF. THERE IS PHYSICAL COMPONENTS,
AND HORMONAL COMPONENTS AND CHEMICAL COMPONENTS. IT’S SO COMPLICATED BUT THERE IS
A SPIRITUAL COMPONENT. IF ONE THING CAN COME OF THIS,
THAT WE ALL START TALKING ABOUT IT. NUMBER 2, THE OTHER GUY CARRYING
THE PARALYTIC, SAYS, WHEN YOU SUFFER, WHAT YOU SUFFER FROM
DOES NOT DEFINE WHO YOU ARE. WHAT YOU SUFFER FROM DOES NOT
DEFINE WHO YOU ARE. II CORINTHIANS 5:13, YOU ARE A
NEW CREATION, THE OLD IS GONE, THE NEW HAS COME. I TALK TO ALCOHOLICS ALL THE
TIME, AND I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU LISTENING RIGHT NOW ARE
ALCOHOLICS. AND WHENEVER I MEET ALCOHOLICS,
THEY TELL ME THEY ARE ALCOHOLIC. AND I KNOW IN YOUR AA MEETINGS
THEY TELL YOU TO STAND UP AND SAY HOW LONG YOU ARE SOBER. YOU SAY MY NAME IS SO-AND-SO,
AND I AM ALCOHOLIC BUT YOU ARE NOT, YOU ARE A CHILD OF GOD. AND THE DEVIL WANTS YOU TO
IDENTIFY WITH YOUR UGLY PAST, YES, IT WAS UGLY, AMEN. MY PAST IS UGLY, BUT THAT’S NOT
WHO I AM. AND GOD TOLD ABRAHAM YOU ARE NOT
LONGER ABRAM, YOU ARE NO LONGER EXALTED FATHER. BY THE WAY THAT IS A GOOD TITLE
BUT I HAVE A BETTER TITLE. GOD CHANGED YOUR NAME. YOUR NAME IS CHRISTIAN. YOU ARE LITTLE CHRIST, THAT’S
WHO YOU ARE. YOU DON’T NEED TO STAND UP AND
SAY I AM ALCOHOLIC, GOD HAS GIVEN YOU A NEW FUTURE. AND THE DEVIL REMINDS YOU WHAT
YOU ARE, AND WHAT THAT MADE YOU. AND GOD TELLS YOU, WHAT I TURNED
YOU INTO. AND YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHO
DEFINE YOURSELF. THAT’S NOT WHO YOU ARE, WHEN YOU
KILL YOURSELF. YOU ARE NOT DOOMED. PEOPLE SAY, DO PEOPLE WHO TAKE
THEIR LIFE GO TO HELL? GOD FORGAVE YOUR SIN. THERE’S NOT A SIN THAT GOD
DOESN’T FORGIVE. IF YOU GO TO HEAVEN. IF YOU ARE WALKING WITH GOD, YOU
ARE FULL OF HOPE. TAKING YOUR LIFE DOES NOT SOLVE
YOUR PROBLEMS, IT CAUSES MORE PROBLEMS. IT BRINGS PAIN TO EVERYBODY YOU
KNOW. GOD WILL NOT FORSAKE YOU. BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT HE WANTS YOU
TO DO. HE WANTS YOU TO REACH OUT TO
HIM. IT IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION IT A
TEMPORARY PROBLEM. YOUR PROBLEM YOU HAVE TODAY, THE
BURDEN YOU HAVE TODAY IS TEMPORARY. AND WE ALL HAVE TO WALK THROUGH
THIS LIFE TOGETHER. AND THAT BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT
POINT. WE ALL NEED ONE ANOTHER. I HAVE LEANED ON COUNSELORS FOR
DECADES. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I HAVE PEOPLE IN MY LIFE THAT
COUNSEL ME. WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THEY HELP ME UNDERSTAND ME. BECAUSE I’M COMPLICATED. YOU ARE COMPLICATED. IT IS NO SHAME. I SAY IT ALL THE TIME, AND THE
REASON I SAY IT ALL THE TIME IS 100% FOR YOUR SAKE. BECAUSE IF YOU FEEL LIKE, YOU
KNOW, I DON’T WANT TO GET HELP. I CAN’T GET HELP. THAT’S THE DEVIL LYING TO YOU. WE WERE NOT MEANT TO DO LIFE
ALONE. WHEN ADAM WAS CREATED IN THE
GARDEN, GOD SAID IT’S NOT GOOD THAT MAN BE ALONE. HE DIDN’T SAY THAT BECAUSE MAN
NEEDED SOMEBODY TO HUG UP ON. JOHN 13:34, A NEW COMMAND, I
GIVE YOU, LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU, AND SO YOU MUST
LOVE ONE ANOTHER. EVERYONE SAY LOVE ONE ANOTHER. BY THIS EVERYONE WILL KNOW YOU
ARE THAT MY DISCIPLES, LOVE ONE ANOTHER — THREE TIMES IN THAT
VERSE IT SAYS LOVE ONE ANOTHER. I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE THE
OTHER DAY, SAYING I AM SO STRONG FOR OTHER PEOPLE. AND IT’S SO EASY FOR ME TO HELP
OTHER PEOPLE. BUT I CAN’T HELP MYSELF. EXACTLY, WE NEED ONE ANOTHER. IF YOU ARE SITTING IN YOUR SEAT,
SITTING AT YOUR HOUSE. AND YOU ARE SAYING I CAN’T DO
THIS ANYMORE. YOU CAN’T BY YOURSELF. I CANNOT DO MY LIFE BY MYSELF. I CANNOT PASTOR THIS CHURCH BY
MYSELF. I CANNOT BE A GOOD HUSBAND BY
MYSELF. I NEED GOD. I NEED COUNSELORS, I NEED
FRIENDS. JUST LIKE YOU. AND THE DEVIL WANTS TO ISOLATE
YOU. IN GENESIS 4, WHEN CAIN KILLED
HIS BROTHER ABEL. HIS PUNISHMENT WAS ISOLATION. THE WORSE PUNISHMENT TO BE
ALONE. AND HE WAS BANISHED, AND SAID I
CAN’T TAKE THAT. BECAUSE WE WERE CREATED FOR
RELATIONSHIP. THERE IS 59 ONE ANOTHERS IN THE
BIBLE, 20 OF THEM SAY LOVE ONE ANOTHER. I WANT TO READ THEM, BECAUSE
THEY ARE SO POWERFUL. BE AT PEACE WITH ONE ANOTHER. WASH ONE’S FEET. BE DEVOTED TO ONE OTHER IN
BROTHERLY LOVE. LIVE IN HARMONY WITH ONE
ANOTHER. I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE IF WE DID
THIS. I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE IF WE DID
THIS. FORGET JUST COMING TO CHURCH. IMAGINE IF WE DID WHAT THE BIBLE
SAYS. STOP PASSING JUDGMENT ON ONE
ANOTHER. PLEASE FOR ALL OF YOU WHO JUDGE,
SHUT YOUR MOUTH. IT’S WRONG. ACCEPT ONE ANOTHER. INSTRUCT ONE ANOTHER. GREET ONE ANOTHER WITH A HOLY
KISS. WHEN YOU COME TOGETHER EAT. WAIT FOR EACH OTHER. HAVE EQUAL CONCERN FOR ONE
ANOTHER. GREET ONE ANOTHER WITH A HOLY
KISS — A LOT OF HOLY KISSING IN THE BIBLE. SERVE ONE ANOTHER. IF YOU KEEP DEVOURING INTO ONE
ANOTHER, YOU WILL DESTROY EACH OTHER. CARRY EACH OTHER’S BURDENS. BE PATIENT WITH ONE ANOTHER. DO NOT LIE TO EACH OTHER. DON’T LIE. HOW YOU DOING? I’M DOING FINE. NO YOU ARE NOT. LET ME PRAY FOR YOU. YOU DON’T NEED TO TELL ME YOUR
GARBAGE, JUST PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER. I WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND
TAUGHT ME NOT TO LIE. AND IT WAS SO HARD FOR ME — I’M
SUCH A BAD LIAR. PEOPLE SAY, HOW ARE YOU DOING. I COULDN’T SAY I WAS GREAT WHEN
I WASN’T GREAT. JUST SAY — PRAY FOR ME. DON’T LIE. DON’T LIE. YOU KNOW PEOPLE LIE TO ME ALL
THE TIME. CHRISTIANS LIE TO ME ALL THE
TIME, ME, RIGHT IN MY FACE. TELL A LIE. WHEN I HEAR NONCHRISTIANS
CRITICIZE CHRISTIANS, I GO, YEAH, I GET IT. I GET IT. IF WE JUST LIVED THAT IT WOULD
SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. BEAR WITH EACH OTHER. FORGIVE WHATEVER GRIEVANCES YOU
HAVE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. SOME OF YOU HOLD A GRUDGE
AGAINST SOMEBODY, LET IT GO. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF GOD HELD A
GRUDGE AGAINST YOU? CAN YOU IMAGINE IF GOD FORGAVE
YOU LIKE YOU FORGIVE OTHER PEOPLE, YOU’D BE IN HELL. ADMONISH ONE ANOTHER. BUILD EACH OTHER UP. WE DID A SURVEY ABOUT THE ROCK,
PEOPLE THAT DON’T COME HERE. PEOPLE WHO STOPPED COMING. AND ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS MADE
ABOUT — THIS IS PARTICULAR, THIS CAMPUS WAS I CAME IN AND NO
ONE SAID HI, TO ME, AND LEFT AND NO ONE SAID HI, TO ME. BROKE MY HEART. I’M NOT THE CHURCH. THE BUILDING IS NOT THE CHURCH. WE ARE THE CHURCH. AND WHEN Y’ALL COME HERE ALL OF
THESE PEOPLE IN HERE ARE YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS, OR
PROSPECTIVE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IT’S NOT A PROGRAM BUT
A FAMILY. WE HAVE TO ACT LIKE IT. ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER. SPUR ONE ANOTHER TO GOOD DEEDS. DO UNDERSTAND SLANDER ONE
ANOTHER. DO YOU KNOW THAT SLANDER IS THE
SAME AS MURDER? AND YET WE CAN TALK ABOUT PEOPLE
ALL DAY LONG. DO NOT GRUMBLE AGAINST EACH
OTHER. CONFESS YOUR SINS ONE TO
ANOTHER. YOU KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS YOU
CONFESS TO GOD FOR FORGIVENESS, YOU CONFESS TO EACH OTHER FOR
HEALING. JAMES 5:16. CONFESS YOUR SINS TO ONE AND BE
HEALED. PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER AND LIVE IN
HARMONY WITH ONE ANOTHER. MAN, WHAT WOULD GOD DO WITH
THAT. MY MOTHER IS TURNING 79 THIS
YEAR AND HER KIDS LIVE ALL OVER THE WORLD. AND ONE BIRTHDAY WE WERE ALL
TOGETHER, HOLDING HANDS IN A CIRCLE AND GETTING READY TO PRAY
AND SHE STARTED CRYING. SHE SAID, THIS IS ALL I WANT. THAT’S IT. I DON’T NEED ANY MONEY. I DON’T NEED — AND MY MOTHER
DON’T HAVE A LOT OF MONEY. I JUST WANT THIS. WHEN GOD LOOKS AT US AND THAT’S
ALL HE WANTS IS FOR US TO GET ALONG. THAT’S IT. IF Y’ALL CAN LOVE EACH OTHER AND
ME, I WILL BE SO HAPPY BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL TAKE CARE OF
ITSELF. ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT THIS
CHURCH, ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEOPLE COME HERE. WE HAVE RICH. MIDDLE CLASS. POOR. WHITE PEOPLE. ASIAN PEOPLE, HISPANIC PEOPLE
AND OTHERS. I WOULD BE IN THE OTHER
CATEGORY, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING. I GOT ALL KIND OF STUFF, I AM
LIKE HEINZ 57. MY GRANDFATHER IS BLACK AND HAVE
A HALF CHINESE GRANDMOTHER AND GOT ONE NAMED FROM SCOTLAND. AND THREE CAME FROM JUNGLE FEVER
— WHICH MEANS THEY HAVE A THING FOR BLACK WOMEN. TRYING TO KEEP IT REAL, TRYING
TO KEEP IT REAL. WE GOT ALL KIND OF PEOPLE. WEALTHY, MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR. ALL IN THE SAME PLACE AT THE
SAME TIME. ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT. LET’S LOVE EACH OTHER. LET’S REACH OUT TO EACH OTHER. AND LOOK AT EACH OTHER IN THE
EYE AND SAY, HOW CAN I PRAY FOR YOU, HOW CAN I ENCOURAGE YOU. SOME OF YOU HAVE JOBS TO GIVE,
AND SOME OF YOU NEED JOBS. SOME OF YOU HAVE ENCOURAGEMENT
AND SOME NEED. THAT’S WHAT THIS IS FOR. THIS IS NOT TO HEAR ME TALK. I HAVE A ROLE BUT THAT’S IT. THERE IS SO MUCH MINISTRY THAT
CAN GO ON IN HERE BETWEEN ALL OF Y’ALL IN ALL OF YOUR CAMPUSES. WE HAVE A LOT OF STAFF DOWN AT
SAN YSIDRO MINISTERING TO THAT FAMILY, CHURCH FAMILY, AND
WILL’S FAMILY. THAT’S HOW IT’S SUPPOSED TO
WORK. WE COME AROUND EACH OTHER. THAT’S WHAT THIS IS FOR. IT’S FOR YOU TO SAY, LORD, I
NEED HELP. AND THAT BRINGS ME TO NUMBER 4. THE FOURTH GUY CARRYING THAT
PARALYTIC SAID, WE ALL NEED TO GO TO JESUS. WE ALL NEED TO GO TO JESUS. ACTS 4:12… NO SALVATION IN ANY OTHER, FOR
NO NAME UNDER HEAVEN AMONG MEN BY WHICH WE MAY BE SAVED. SOMEONE WROTE IN, DOES YOUR
CHRISTIANITY REALLY WORK? EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. DOES YOUR CHRISTIANITY REALLY
WORK? I WORKOUT ON THIS DVD CALLED
BODY BEAST. TRYING TO BE A BEAST. IT’S BEACH BODY SERIES, THEY
HAVE ALL OF THESE DVD’S ON EXERCISE, I TRIED P-90-X, BUT I
LIKE THIS BETTER, IT’S A BODYBUILDER FROM ISRAEL. GIANT GUY. I WANT TO BE BIG BUT CAN’T GET
THAT BIG. BUT I WORKOUT. AND BEFORE EVERY WORKOUT THEY
HAVE AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR SOME VITAMINS. AND THE LADIES, THE MUSIC IS
PLAYING AND SAYS, EXERCISE ONLY WORKS IF YOU DO IT. [LAUGHTER] AND THEN IT SAYS, VITAMINS
ONLY WORK IF YOU TAKE THEM. AND EVERY DAY I LISTEN TO THAT,
EXERCISE ONLY WORKS IF YOU DO IT. THIS ONLY WORKS IF YOU DO IT. SITTING IN HERE IS JUST A VERY
SMALL PART OF DOING IT. YOU ARE GOING TO BE BURDENED ALL
OF YOUR LIFE BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A FALLEN WORLD. YOU ARE GOING TO BE CONFRONTED
WITH STUFF. CONFLICT. PAIN. ALL YOUR LIFE. BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS. YOU HAVE TO SAY, LORD I TRUST
YOU. I TRUST YOU NOT ALONE, I TRUST
YOU IN FAMILY. WE HAVE A LIFE CLASS, WE HAVE
BEEN TELLING YOU TO GO TO. I CAN’T ENCOURAGE YOU ENOUGH TO
GO TO LIFE CLASS. GET IN A SMALL GROUP. SURRENDER YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE
WHO WILL PRAY FOR YOU AND TALK WITH YOU AND ENCOURAGE YOU. 95%, I GOT THIS STAT THIS
MORNING, 95% OF THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO COUNSELING HERE AT OUR
CHURCH. ARE NOT IN A SMALL GROUP. BECAUSE WHEN PEOPLE COME HERE
FOR COUNSELING, ARE YOU IN A SMALL GROUP. 95% OF THE PEOPLE — DOESN’T
MEAN IF YOU GO TO A SMALL GROUP YOU DON’T NEED COUNSELING. HOWEVER, YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE
IN YOUR LIFE TO TALK TO. WE CANNOT DO THIS ALONE. AND I WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF
YOU TODAY, NUMBER ONE, THINK ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
GOD. AND HOW FAITHFULLY ARE YOU DOING
THIS. ARE YOU TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE
OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE, AS A MATTER OF FACT ON OUR WEBSITE WE
HAVE RESOURCES FOR YOU. IF YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH
ANYTHING. MENTAL ILLNESS. TAKING YOUR LIFE. YOU KNOW SOMEBODY, IT’S ALL ON
THE WEBSITE. AND RESOURCES WHAT TO DO FOR
YOURSELF AND SOMEONE ELSE, BECAUSE IT’S A VERY REAL THING. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU SO MANY
PEOPLE OUT THERE POTENTIALLY SUFFERING SILENTLY. AND FEEL YOU CAN’T TELL ANYBODY,
YOU CAN. YOU CAN. AND WE WANT TO HELP YOU, IN A
MINUTE WE’RE GOING TO PRAY. IN ALL CAMPUSES. YOU’RE ON THAT STRETCHER, YOU
MAY BE ON THAT STRETCHER FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. EMOTIONAL STRESS. MENTAL STRESS. PHYSICAL STRESS. YOU FEEL DISTANT FROM GOD, YOU
HAVE A FEAR AND FEARFUL OF FEAR AND LONELINESS. OR DESPAIR. YOU SAY I NEED GOD IN MY LIFE. I HAVE EMPTINESS. I NEED GOD IN MY LIFE. I AM TRYING EVERYTHING ELSE. LEAD ME TELL YOU SOMETHING,
NOTHING ELSE WILL WORK BECAUSE YOU ARE CREATED FOR RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD. ALL HAVE SINNED, AND THAT SIN
DRIVES US AWAY FROM GOD IN EVERY FORM AND FASHION. AND THIS BEING ONE OF THEM. AND THE ONLY THING TO REMOVE
THAT SIN BETWEEN YOU AND GOD AND ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN
YOU AND GOD, CONFESS YOURSELF AS A SINNER TO JESUS CHRIST, LORD,
I SURRENDER MY LIFE, AND LAY MY LIFE AT YOUR FEET. PLEASE ACCEPT ME AS YOUR CHILD. AND GOD WOULD SAY, YES,
ABSOLUTELY YES. THE DEVIL IS LYING TO YOU. I LOVE YOU. I WANT TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
WITH YOU. I WANT TO HEAL YOU. I WANT TO REMOVE THAT OLD
CRUSTY, NASTY IDENTITY THAT THE DEVIL PUT IN YOUR HEAD. AND SHOW YOU, YOU ARE MY LOVE
CHILD, MY LOVE SON, MY LOVE DAUGHTER. THAT’S WHAT GOD WANTS. AND SO IN A MINUTE WE’RE GOING
TO PRAY. I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT YOUR
LIFE, AND SAY, THIS IS MY CHANCE, GOD, PLEASE DELIVER ME. WALK OFF OF THAT STRETCHER LIKE
THE GUY IN THE STORY. WALK OFF OF THAT STRETCHER. YOU HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING SO LONG
AND TIME TO SAY GOOD-BYE. I DON’T NEED TO DO THAT ANYMORE,
I GAVE MY LIFE TO CHRIST AND STOPPED COCAINE THAT DAY, AND
STOPPED SMOKING MARIJUANA THAT DAY. NOT BECAUSE I WAS STRONG AND
GOOD. NONE OF THAT. BECAUSE I WAS SO WEAK AND LOST
AND HELPLESS. BUT I GAVE IT TO JESUS. HE’S THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN
CHANGE YOUR HEART. YOUR NATURE. WHO YOU ARE. BUT YOU GOT TO DO YOUR PART AND
COME TO HIM. NO TEMPTATION, NO BURDEN, NO
PAIN WILL EVER OVERTAKE YOU TOO HARD TO HANDLE, BUT NOT ALONE. WITH HIM. ALL CAMPUSES I ASK YOU TO BOW
YOUR HEADS AND CLOSE YOUR EYES. AND LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY. GOD LOVES YOU. GOD LOVES YOU. GOD LOVES YOU. IF GOD SPOKE TO YOU DURING THAT SERMON AND YOU FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO ASK CHRIST TO BE YOUR SAVIOR, IT’S AS SIMPLE AS A-B-C. ONE, ADMIT AND ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A SINNER. THE BIBLE SAYS ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, THAT HE DIED FOR YOUR SIN AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD. AND THEN CONFESS YOURSELF A SINNER AND SAY, JESUS PLEASE FORGIVE ME OF MY SIN. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK JESUS CHRIST TO BE YOUR SAVIOR, JUST LOOK AT ME RIGHT NOW AND PRAY THIS PRAYER WITH ME IN THE PRIVACY OF YOUR HEART, KNOWING THAT GOD KNOWS YOU AND LOVES YOUR VERY MUCH. SAY, DEAR GOD, I BELIEVE THAT I AM SINNER. I KNOW THE PENALTY OF MY SIN IS DEATH. I DON’T WANT TO DIE AND GO TO HELL. I BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, THAT HE DIED AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR MY SIN. I CONFESS MYSELF A SINNER AND ASK HIM TO FORGIVE ME OF MY SIN. JESUS, PLEASE FORGIVE ME OF MY SIN. AND FILL ME WITH THE SPIRIT OF GOD. IN JESUS NAME, AMEN. IF YOU PRAYED THAT PRAYER, IF YOU JUST ASKED CHRIST TO BE YOUR SAVIOR, WE WANT TO KNOW. WE WANT TO EMAIL YOU SOME RESOURCES. IF YOU JUST PRAYED THAT PRAYER WITH ME, TO ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR, CLICK ON THE LINK THAT JUST APPEARED. WE WANT TO EMAIL YOU SOME FREE RESOURCES. GOD BLESS YOU, AND WE WILL SEE YOU IN HEAVEN.

64 thoughts on “Rock Church – Breaking the Silence on Mental Illness

  1. Great word Pastor Miles. Especially the part about feeling like you can't work for God when you feel depressed, ill, etc. First, let me say that I reached out to my church and my brothers and sisters online (one of who attends your church) when I was diagnosed with depression. I am on the prayer team at my church in Bothell, Washington, and I feel God's presence best when I'm praying for other people. And I've had people come back to tell me they received healing. God uses broken people! It gives Him ALL the Glory, because we know it isn't us that healed them!

  2. Thank you, Pastor Miles, for allowing the Holy Spirit to speak to us through you. There was healing going on at RCEC on Sunday, and I believe at all the campuses. As a church family, we are grieving the loss of our dear brother, but God….

  3. My condolences to the family of Will Fejeran . Through this
     message I understand that only God can get us out of depression.
     Without Jesus Christ we can do nothing . Thank you Pastor Miles
    McPherson.

  4. this is such a sad situation and my prayers go to the family and the church in this time. however I think sharing this message needs to be handled with care because there are those out there that contemplate suicide and and deal with illness and the scripture and warning specifically with Judas as the son of perdition is the only thing keeping them from going through with it. so please be careful with this. sin is forgiven with repentance and grace.. how do you repent once you have died? grace doesn't give freedom to sin..Dont let the devil win!. If there are some struggling with this please do seek help and cry to God get into the word and reach out! God bless all

  5. Thank you for such an encouraging sermon. I'm currently facing a very tough time, finances are very tight and I don't know exactly what to do. I would like to teach music lessons but I haven't been able to find many students. I'm facing hunger as a result and I'm discouraged. I do love and know Jesus but facing such poverty day in and day out is very wearring on my body and mind. I know God provides to those he loves but I'm not seeing anything… I'm still broke. Thank you again for this sermon, it really has encouraged me. I pray for your pastor and his family, I understand what you are facing very well.

  6. in 8:07 he says can you be a leader and still suffer from this, he doesn't answer but moves onto another…Can somebody elaborate on this can you be a leader and suffer from a mental illness

  7. tears this message is so powerful. someone I love suffers from mental illness and it hurts to witness…my God, I needed this message!

  8. Jesus is healing me from mental illness and it is a lifelong process. It takes many ingredients to bake a cake and all of these ingredients are important for overall health and healing. Hallelujah, thank you Jesus!!

  9. Jesus Christ has the power to heal you. im not the religious type. i didnt grow up in a Christian home and the way I have been walking isnt the steps God wants me to yet God is good to me. I at one time considered myself "agnostic". I dont know what I am, but I believe In Christ as savior.

    everytime I call to God for help I am quickly answered. pray for me, I too had been diagnosed with "major depression" suicide did go through my mind, and i was just a void with hopelessness.

    Instead of acting that way I seeked out for help which is what i recommend most. but what gave me peace is the whole book of John and the eternal promise of Christ.

    pray for me so that I can walk in Gods ways & pray for people that deal with anxiety and depression and any mental illness.

  10. Can someone please explain to me where the Bible says that we will be burdened, but it will not take over us? I'm having trouble finding that particular verse but I'd really like to know what exactly it is. This pastor referenced it in his sermon

  11. I am a small church pastor. One of our associate pastors died about a year ago. I have been unable to speak about this for almost a year. I found my friend after he passed. I have been struggling since. I am so thankful that God brought me to your sermon. I am ready to address my congregation about my friends death. Thank you brother.

  12. I suffer with depression and anxiety…life is hard and its hard to love others when you dont love yourself. Lord, I need help!

  13. thankyou for the indepth and candid message on mental illness. i am a sufferer and are in a season that i can relate to ending it but i hv children so i must March on

  14. I'm learning spiritual warfare..I decided I'm going to win over anxiety or fear,ect..Before i even open my eyes,I go into conversation with the holy spirit.I CONSTANTLY keep the word of God playing and loudly praise and LOUDLY DECLARE God's word whenever I feel anxiety or depression trying me..Dont give up people;May the spirit of joy and Prince of Peace be with anyone suffering!

  15. Jesus is the great healer. I've had depression and anxiety for so long and my God delivered me. He gave me back my self esteem because I realized I am his daughter!

  16. My heart goes out to the leader and his family. May God be with them and comfort them. I have read most of the replies to this video, I would like to suggest the materials and teaching and research from a woman named dr. Leaf. Her research on the study of the brain and how she applies her research to the word of God, is life changing. I would advise anyone dealing with matters of the mind, mental illness included, check out her materials and studies. God has truly bless her to be a blessing to the body of Christ for the revelation he has given her through her research and work. To anybody and everybody check out her videos on switch on your brain. This has been a huge help to me. May God bless everyone dealing with mental illness and matters of the mind.

  17. No words because I been suffering all my life but doing the best I can,but the church always thinking it’s demons in me

  18. For those of you that thumbs downed this message you may be one of those sitting in the dark in silence. Know that you are covered by the grace and blessing of our God. Don’t be afraid to come forward and admit you have a problem and seek professional and spiritual help.

  19. Thank you, pastor Miles for being sensitive to the voice of the Holy Spirit and speaking about real things that our community and church need…blessings!

  20. You people are the cause of gas lighting and mental health problems. You hypocrites. You are involved with the MOB and government. You killed these people. May God have mercy on your souls rock church you brood of vipers!!!

  21. I am one of the carriers who is carrying her son onto the roof top and lowering him down before Jesus to get healing from being diagnosed with schizophrenia. I was given this scripture few months ago but let the scripture slip away from my thoughts till l listened to this. Lord hear my prayer. Pray for my son and l

  22. Thank you sir for this message. You have saved my life. And hopefully my daughter’s. May God bless you and your Church

  23. Here is a Site on the Topic Schizophrenia and self dieliverance .God bless you all, I suffer also Mental Problems but i believe God will Set me free & heal me in Jesus Name Amen and Amen and Amen. http://www.demonbuster.com/schizophrenia.html

  24. I found this video by accident. Thank you so much for your kind and passionate message. I am a born again Christian battling depression and anxiety. God bless all the way from Philippines.

  25. you overcome the world by your faith! fight the good fight of faith… you do not wrestle against flesh and blood but spiritual principalities in high places… http://www.facebook.com/christianmentalhealth no weapon formed against you shall prosper! build your house on the firm foundation of Jesus Christ so when the storms of life beat against your house it will not fall!

  26. Thank you Miles. Please Pray Pray Pray for me. I am so so so Sick. major depression & Anxiety and no meds. works. I have no will to live like this. I am slowly dying from anorexia not because i think i'm fat I no I'm bones lost 25 pounds in 10 months I can't eat. MY Jehovah's Witness family has disassociated me, even restraint orders are on me never to see my 5 grandchildren as long as i live says my Daughter. THE LITTLE GIRL IN THE PHOTO IS BELLA who lived with me for 7 years – PLEASE IN MY MEMORY WATCH The video of me and Bella Titled Bella & Grandma Lisa in my Lika Souza Channel I said The forgiveness prayer at the end of your video I'm Still crying, I can't LIVE WITHOUT HER.

  27. When I was diagnosed with bipolar depression I expected people to understand and have sympathy or even empathy and when I feel really at my lowest I dont have the motivation to take care of myself and part of not caring for yourself is feeling like your medicine isnt helping because your still sad so you stop taking your medicine and you decide to give into the thoughts in your head telling yourself your not good enough…. and when your surrounded by people who only relate and respond to the world…. they wont understand, they will overlook your mental illness and just label you a bad person, and unworthy person…. and because you already believe those things about yourself they just give you confirmation that you dont matter…… I realized how much I not only need God but how much I need people in my life who are chasing after God. I stepped away from church because I had a bad experience with church family and for so long I let that experience take me away from God. I live in Atlanta and I am looking for a church home.

  28. My daughter and her newlywed husband just start going to a new church in Vegas 3 sundays still know one made them feel welcome……smh

  29. when it comes to addition and mental illness, the church has nothing to offer but scripture verses and fear of the devil….no point going to one of those places if you need real help

  30. Amen pastor!!!
    Thank you very much for sharing this powerful message!!!!
    I'm really sorry for your loss in the church!… wishing his family comfort and strength!
    And thank you very much for the "ABC" of salvation!!! I've often asked myself, what should I pray with a person who wants to accept Jesus as their Lord and savior… but I think that with this acronym I'll remember what to say with the person so that they can be saved!!!:DDDD
    Once again! Thank you very much!!!:DDDD
    See you in heaven!;) but I hope to meet you one day here on earth as well;) or on a flight somewhere;p hahahahaaha (technically in heaven again;) hahahah

  31. Brothers and Sisters, The demon's know their time is SHORT!!!! SO, they will walk about to seek someone to devour. We are told to be sober, to be vigilant, to be on the alert. And to submit to the Lord, and resist him, firm in your faith, and to put on the FULL ARMOR OF GOD, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST THE SCHEMES OF THE DEVIL. Please read and study Ephesians 6: 10–20 and 1 Peter 5: 8–11. I'm not opposed to medication, but God has provided His spiritual warfare weapons for His children to put into practice NOW. Also Pastor Chip Ingram the Invisible war series 101, 102, 103,…..
    Also, I too have suffered thoughts that are not mine, and voices in my ears. My story may enlighten you. Listen at: Hearing Voices: Real Help and Understanding
    https://youtu.be/WoGhx-Orflg
    Praying for you all, with love and compassion, Carol

  32. Speaking from C-bad, NM. I've been suffering from Bipolar type1 and anxiety attacks (worsening) since 2000. Presently I've been under attack from the enemy like never before and I cry out to Jesus. I feel I'm just holding on to the side of the boat and i'm in the water. It hurts so badly (physically as well as mentally) during some of the panic attacks I just want to die, but I cry out to Jesus and I keep on. Oh Jesus! Please come for us now!

  33. Hey RCA

    You got me pretty bad with your RCA Bipolar. Turns out it's fake. Any amount of placebo combinations will fail & I'm sure you think RCA is solution. Twice into your theater, kidnapped against my will, I fee stupid, butt i do believe that your theater would fool anybody 4A real medical hospital. This is the devil & you force your RCA placebo upon me like high school bully

    There is no brand new day 4 me, especially on medicare

    May real God have mercy on your soul, because Federal Bureau of Investigation will have none

  34. Nobody wants to get mad helping others. Everybody in this world thinks only about him/herself (or, to some extent, their family).Nice speech, but to this day I’ve yet to find a preacher who proposes something people are or may be willing to do.

  35. there's not a sin God doesn't forgive… i released a music video about mental illness / it has a dancer expressing how it feels

  36. This happened before I started attending The Rock, so I never met the man who ended his life. What really resonates with me is Pastor Miles desire to make The Rock a place where people can trust God and not suffer in silence.

    Even today, most of the people I pray with there are not involved in any time of church family like a small group bible study. We aren’t meant to do life alone, so reach out if you need help.

  37. We sufer a lot and we know Jesus loves us…The problem is we are missing a sustance quimical invalance in our brain the makes us feeling horrible, thas why we need medicine and support and been listening don’t tell us what to do because we feal missundertending and thas why people whit depression insole we don’t feal support and nobody understands us God bless you all I’m cristian 12 years ego and sick since 2010 and alive and helping others whit the word of God yo feal better whit mental illness and praying for them too

  38. People who are saying that suicide is a sin and that means Will will be going to hell. Please read my thoughts below.

    What you are saying is that the perfect sacrifice of Jesus is not powerful enough to cover someone who commits the sin of suicide? Because then you basically have a works based understanding of salvation. What if the day I die I am cursing someone in traffic and have a car accident and die? Do I go to hell because I called the other driver an idiot? Or because Jesus lived a perfect life and is the only holiness that Father God will accept I will be accepted by God into heaven for eternity? Jesus said cursing someone is the same as murder.

    Secondly as someone has pointed out taking one's own life when suffering from a mental illness is part of a disease. I agree its similar to cerebral palsy as it's like a disability of sorts. When someone has cancer and they try radiation and chemo and surgery and get a bit better but aren't fully cured its extremely demoralizing. Then when they just cant take it anymore and refuse further treatment so they can just die in peace after fighting for so long. Is that a sin?

    Even if we believe in healing which I do, Jesus and the disciples didn't condemn sick people for the hopelessness they feel around their sickness. Like the epileptic boy in Matthew 17. He threw himself in fire when having a seizure. Jesus didn't tell him he was sinful and didn't value his life. He was sick. He actually rebuked his disciples for not having faith to heal the boy. The same with cancer. If there is a church member or family member who has faith for healing then great. But the person suffering with cancer barely has faith to brush their teeth that morning.

    Yes what Judas did committing suicide was a sin. But he had not placed his faith in Jesus yet. Did you know Elijah and Job also asked God to die. They were suicidal. And God did not rebuke them.

    Most people suffering with depression get helped by medication but its definitely not a perfect solution. Most people get only slightly better with meds. I am suffering with depression now for 4 months and the meds help me feel from a 30/100 to a 45/100. Still not great. From my experience and the research out there the most other helpful things are:
    1) Physical aspect (improve sleep, eat healthy, anti-depressant meds to fix the chemical imbalance, do more exercise, reduce stressful situations)
    2) Social aspect: (need support and love from empathetic, kind people to help them heal: cell groups, support groups, family and friends who can listen and pray for them)
    3) Emotional aspect: (Psychotherapy helps tremendously to understand the illness and some root issues from childhood and the effect of current traumas or unprocessed grief. Counselling with church counsellors also helps.)
    4) Spiritual aspect: (Yes depression definitely has a spiritual element and this needs to be addressed. prayer, worship, meditation, biblical truth and deliverance all help people with mental illness)

    It's a complex illness that is multifactorial need a multifaceted approach to healing.

    Many who commit suicide I can guarentee were only given 1 or 2 of the options above to help heal them.

    I have only started healing from my depression by engaging in all 4 areas of help and health.

    Hope this helps you understanding the complexity of this disease.

    Christianity & Depression: Dr Aaron Kheriaty
    https://youtu.be/R4fY50buAuI

    57 min talk by a Christian Psychiatrist where he explains that depression is not purely a spiritual or physical or emotional reality but a combination of all 3. Very helpful to grow our understanding of this complex disease

  39. I go see my doctor and take medications. This has saved my life. The church I was from demonized me for my illness. I don’t go to church anymore. I love Jesus but I suffer from church trauma. I pray that the church educates itself about this illness. Why be so spiritual minded that you’re not earthly good. Wake up people. The brain is an organ that is broken in need of medications. I say the hell with the stigma. I go get my help for myself. I don’t have false pride and I’m not in denial. I accept and admit my mental illness. I have the awareness and knowledge of my illness. I say to anyone if you’re depressed or anxious go get help. God bless you.

  40. I'm a born again and rededicated Christian who suffers from bi polar disorder. Both myself and my girlfriend were pushed out of two Churches. I even reached out to them by making 2 or three DVDs to help them understand what I have to deal and struggle with
    I seriously doubt they even watched them and really hurt. Who
    Ever is reading this please pray 🙏 for the both of us 🙏

  41. You don’t “commit or choose suicide. The brain loses all capability of finding a coping mechanism. It’s chemical and biological. They don’t “choose” suicide. SUICIDE is there last attempt to LIVE. God Bless us all.

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