Islam: The Misunderstood Religion! – LECTURE – Abdur-Raheem Green

Islam: The Misunderstood Religion! – LECTURE – Abdur-Raheem Green


Hey Hey now I’m gonna talk about a topic is slammed the misunderstood religion Sam the misunderstood religion and the first thing I would look like to talk about a first thing I’d like to talk about is Islam itself what does the word Islam mean okay so the word Islam so you’ll often find that people say the word Islam means peace and it is true in a sense that Islam means peace in the sense that peace true peace which is inner peace not often we think of peace being as the absence of war but actually this is a very limited and narrow definition of peace as just the absence of war because in fact in reality we may not have war but we still may not have peace ok many societies may not be at war with other countries but you’ll find that those societies themselves are full of internal conflicts so no peace is a product of Islam and when we say peace we mean a deep inner tranquility that is something that for the one who really truly follows Islam they will experience peace but actually the word Islam itself means submission it means submission ok and before the the you know before the film fitna here there was another film which was cool I think by a Danish filmmaker called its submission and I think it’s pretty obvious the question I’m going to ask you what do you think of the word submission in the context of your average Norwegian yeah do you think what do you think that’s positive or negative submission do you think that’s a positive word or a negative word for your average Norwegian huh yeah it’s negative right if you say Islam means submission they’ll say yeah is that mean submission and we have freedom so I’m not interested in that thank you very much right good submission and you know in the context certainly of the Western ideologies is a very negative concept okay but what I really want to talk about you know is what does submission mean what is the reality of submission and in fact I would like to point out to you that submission is something that we do all the time in our lives we are always submitting in our lives throughout our lives in fact I would like to lay a challenge down to every freedom-loving person okay because the term freedom really similarly if you look at freedom it doesn’t exist there is no such thing as absolute freedom no society leaves you absolutely free to do absolutely whatever you like is that true or not it’s true okay so the set you know freedom in an absolute sense is something that just does not exist when the country says we are freedom we’ve believed in freedom of course if you discuss with intelligent people they what they mean is they they will say no we are more free in this and this and this area than other nations but that’s not how it’s sold to you it’s not how it’s sold because actually being sold an idea and the idea being sold is freedom and everybody likes the idea of being free actually I would say the ideal is that you could leave everybody absolutely free to do whatever they like and there’s no rules to govern their behavior and people were just automatically behave in the best way that would be the ideal right okay we don’t have any laws we don’t have any rules everyone just behaves in the right way everyone treats each other in the right way yeah and this would be the ideal situation right no government no control okay but this this is unrealistic there’s no historical precedent really maybe some islands I don’t know somewhere you know who have something like that but human beings there’s not something that we find that human beings have ever been able to accomplish something like that so all society all human societies including this one in which we live they are trying to strike a balance right they’re trying to strike a balance between two things one is individual freedom one is individual freedom and the other is limiting that freedom in order to protect society because when human beings live together and we talked about this yesterday what we need to do a society in order that people different people do different jobs and society is able to run and people conform to laws and they obey those laws what we have to try and do is socialize people we have to try and get people to buy into an ideal and a concept a way of living and according to this people are given different tasks people do different duties people follow laws and this is the reality we need those laws and they limit the restriction they restrict the freedom of the individual in order to protect the Science Society and the debate that is always going on in every society and sometimes it’s more obvious than others how much do we live limit how much do we limit the freedom of the individual in order to protect the society yeah now this is very very clear in America and Britain where we have had terrorist attacks okay so Britain and America they’ve had terrorist attacks and this debate this whole debate has come to the forefront because obviously America especially you know is well used to be very much concerned with you know freedom freedom of speech and many freedoms that people are given okay so American society is concerned with that but now they have passed a whole series of very very draconian laws which is known as the Patriot Act and these laws obviously they restrict the freedoms that people have so what you have is a type of a statement that’s an oxymoron it’s the type of contradiction in terms in order for us to continue our freedoms we’re going to have to live your freedom you this is what they say so in order for us to keep on being free we have to limit your freedom and this is the same thing that the debate is in UK is that how much can we keep restricting people’s freedoms in order to protect our society because what happens is we get to a stage where we don’t even respect what we consider to be human rights anymore because in order to protect ourselves from terrorism or whatever it may be we have restricted the human so much that we even now begin to trample upon and restrict their human rights okay but actually this is the debate that all societies are having all the time but one thing I want us to realize whether we are Muslim Christian Jew whether our our we have a secular outlook there is something that all of us I think have in common right and it’s it’s disingenuous for anyone in the press or for politicians okay or even to suggest really otherwise that we all have something in common the vast majority of us whoever we are whatever we are we most of us want to live in a peaceful society and a prosperous society we are concerned that we want our children to be protected okay we want to be protect protected we don’t want our Goods to be stolen we don’t want our children to be preyed upon we don’t want our women to be raped yeah we don’t want people to have psychological problems okay we don’t want violence in the streets we want to be able to live in a society where we can buy where we can sell where you can exchange Goods where we can try to live a prosperous happy life now every most human beings that’s what they want right that’s what they want Muslims are not any different and for anyone to suggest that Muslims want anything different or that Islam itself as a religion teaches anything different is at the very least disingenuous at the most it is perhaps playing evil when we’re talking about Islam the misunderstood religion one of the things that I like to point out to people and actually a documentary maker in England did this the press in England has actually over the years invented pure lies about Muslims I mean I am saying pure lies and one documentary maker he actually commissioned a university study to look at the news reports about Muslims and to actually analyze them and actually trace down and question the people whom they had been claimed for example Muslims want Christmas band yeah this comes up again and again Muslims one Christmas band in such-and-such council in such-and-such Province yeah Muslims demanded that Christmas trees should not be such-and-such right in fact when the journalist went and they actually interviewed the council the council said this is absolute rubbish no such thing happened right all that happened was one Muslim one it was asked to come to a Christmas party and said I’m sorry I can’t come to the Christmas party or something and from that was really a total lie for example another type of lie is Muslim in hospital to hospital demands that pig is picture is taken down from the war right okay I mean I hear this is something that someone had it may be it happened but there are stories like this which they were discovered were actually absolute fabrications lies right the other thing was Sharia law Muslims want to implement Sharia law okay and then what did they do they went around they actually did a poll and they interviewed Muslims and they said do you want Sharia law in England right and they found like 40% of Muslims said yes they want Sharia law in England and this and that so there can be these statistics okay and there was a big hullabaloo about Muslims want Sharia law in England okay actually what this journalist did is he took these headlines and the or he did something very simple he took out the word Muslim and he put the word Jew that’s all he did he took out the word Muslim and he put in the word Jew and then he went on the street and he showed people Jews want their own law Jews want to be able to practice their own laws same headline but the word Muslim was taken out is and he said what do you think of this headline he said that’s very racist that’s anti-semitic that’s inflammatory right okay Jews want Christmas banned or that they shouldn’t say that about Jews yeah I mean all the headlines you went and he showed them a whole series of these headlines they just placed the replace the word Muslim with Jew and then he went and said actually those were not real headlines here are the real headlines and he showed them what the papers had said he should have seen the faces of those people right looking ashamed of themselves ashamed of themselves right I guarantee you brothers and sisters and whoever’s here is not a Muslim anything you have against Islam I can find something worse in the biblical law which Jews adhere to and they believe in in fact there are so many death punishments in the biblical law I can’t remember I haven’t counted them one of them is breaking the Sabbath the punishment for breaking the Sabbath is death the punishment for hitting your parents according to the Judaic law is death hitting your parents is that right but we don’t find anyone going out and you know Jews claim that you should kill your parents yeah you know no Jew Jews claim you should slow to your children for touching their parents yeah and stuff like that because quite rightly quite rightly I have to say this type of these type of words and these type of statements right are inflammatory and we all know and we should all know where did a hundred and fifty two hundred three hundred actually it’s a long more time than that okay actually this type of attitude towards Jews started a long long time ago in Christendom but it all ended up after by the way a lot of years of massacres of Jews the Jews will not only massacred by Hitler in the concentration camps if you look in European history Jews have been slaughtered throughout European history okay that was just the most nasty and the most dramatic of them but what came behind the slaughter of the Jews was years and years of propaganda anti-semitism and in fact if you look at the type of stuff that people are saying about Muslims today it is exactly the same type of things that were being said about Jews in the past exactly the same type of things okay and this actually in my opinion is a very nasty streak that exists within Europeans despite all of their claims of tolerance and all of their claims of being open-minded and this and that there is a very nasty streak that has not the anti-semitic streak that runs throughout European history and this type of propaganda that we find against Islam is just another branch of it it’s just another version of it the Muslims are the new Jews we are the new ones that these people with this very nasty streak in them they have found they always like the alien the other to pick on in the past it was the Jews today it is the Muslims because fundamentally for 90% of Muslims okay the reality is that they just want to live a peaceful life they want to benefit from what they can materialistically from society and in fact in general they want to contribute to the well-being of humanity we want to live peaceful lives for us our families and our children right if slam teaches us about how to be a good neighbor to the extent that the Prophet Muhammad may Allah’s peace and blessings be upon him he swore by God he said while llahi by God he is not a believer well lie he by God he is not a believer by God he is not a believer the one whose neighbor is not safe from his mischeif and the Prophet did not say as to whether this neighbor was a Muslim or not it doesn’t matter if you’re Muslim if your neighbor is Muslim or not Muslim it doesn’t matter you cannot be mischievous and destroyed to annoy your neighbor in fact it’s impossible that you are a person of faith in God and you could treat your neighbor like that in fact indeed the prophet sallallaahu alayhi wasalam said he is not a believer who sleeps with his stomach full or heart and her stomach full while her neighbor is hungry youyou can’t be believing in God and your stomach is full and your neighbor is hungry in fact the Prophet said when you cook add some more make some what’s to make the cooking more so you can share it with your neighbors this is what its specific instructions in Islam even to the extent that you should share your food with your neighbors the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam may God’s peace and blessings be upon him himself in Mecca he used to live next to and this is a very famous story many Muslims they have heard of this story of course he used to one of his neighbors was a Jewess and she regularly used to throw rubbish on the Prophet on the path of the Prophet when the prophet’s awesome used to walk down the street regularly she used to do this and one day no prophet was walking past the street and what did he notice no rubbish that they thrown on him right so what did he do he went back and he knocked on the door and the maidservant of the house answered the door and he started saying he started asking you know is your is your mistress okay is she well is there anything I can do for her you know I’m her neighbor I live just close by if there’s anything I can do to help her please just let me know okay along something along these lines okay I’ve when this woman she heard about this she said I shall do and Lila in the law where she’ll do a number Honduras rumba i testify there is no god but God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God only prophets have character like this so this is how the Prophet Muhammad treated his neighbor there was a great scholar of Islam his name was Sophie an authority and next to him used to live a Jew his neighbor was a Jew so many people used to come and beg this Jew let me buy your house let me they used to offer him huge amounts of money to buy his house because they wanted to live as Muslims next to this great scholar and he kept on refusing and he said to them where am I going to be able to find a house and have a neighbor like sufyan where am I going to find a house and I’m gonna have a neighbor like sufyan this is how this is our religion okay so this is our Deen is that our Deen is seeking to create a better society we all agree therefore any sensible person and the only person I really who think will not agree with this are the extremists on both ends of the spectrum right they will be the extremists on both end of the spectrum the neo-fascists right and the Muslim extremists but in between that are the ordinary people so in reality what are we saying we are saying look we agree upon the same things the only thing we disagree upon is how do we reach that goal here’s the goal we want to reach and we all want to reach the same goal but we are disagreeing really about the means that we reach that goal ok how much freedom should the individual have and in what way should we punish those people who transgress those limits right but if you look at it the argumentation about oh you punish people like this and you punish people like that these in reality the externalities you know these things are not evil in and of themselves there are really different goals different means to reach the same goal the same donation now it may seem to the eyes of people who live in Norway or England or I don’t know wherever at the moment people may seem they may say oh these laws that you Muslims have they are very barbaric yeah and I will admit from the point of view of someone who’s brought up in the West they seem very barbaric right chopping a hand off the thief for example it seems very barbaric okay there’s no doubt about that if you’re brought up here that’s how it’s going to look okay but what is the objective the objective is that people will live in a safer society similarly what we all agree that stealing is bad don’t we right I don’t think anyone’s going to disagree that stealing is bad no one has had the property stolen and has had things taken from them is going to think that’s good right so we’re talking about how what is the solution to the problem how do we reach the goal that we want to achieve we have now we have different opinions about that okay now you may say the punishment is harsh but then we can point to examples historically and even in the world today where that punishment is implemented first of all very few people receive that punishment but in spite of that the society is really really safe people can leave their goods people can leave even their gold their cars they leave doors open and people are not harmed even in England in UK I recently just the other day had my bike stolen okay from the back of my garden right and my wife was going around okay knocking on the doors of neighbours and you so many people said we had the same problem right and my wife she’s actually but sometimes a bit more fiery than even me and I have to say calm down a bit you know and whatever right and she was saying to the neighbor you know I think we should probably chop the hands of his the good thing the neighbors going yes that’s a good idea right I think that’s it and you would be surprised you’ll be surprised how many people right would agree with that right you see in Islam it’s not about some mad Muslims as Ward’s going around Hyde jumping on some person they think as a thief and just slash the handoff like that we’ve got him is it and you know like in that film I was that film that superhero is you know forget it man anyway I just saw like three seconds of it any sharpens this thing and he chops the hand off this terrorist do you know comes with a handle what’s it called yeah I don’t care but anyway the point being is that you’d be surprised how many people would say yeah you know because what really seriously okay within Islam we’re not talking about gratuitously just you know amputating people’s hands no it’s not like that it is a legal process like any other legal process no one gets punished or should get punished according to Islamic law until they have gone through the proper legal process just like any other legal process they have to go to the court they have to go to the judge right and you see the babies agree yeah okay and you know and just like any other legal process and there are conditions there are conditions for example if the person who stole right is stealing out of some great need or necessity like hunger extreme hunger or you know there is some severe family problem and you know whatever I mean this is no the punishment is for people who are gratuitously stealing that’s just they you know they just steal because that’s what they do not because they have some meat so there are all you know there are conditions that have to be laid down just like every other punishment but we have to say we have to ask yes it may seem to us right that it is you know severe and so and so on with many of the Sharia punishments but in reality we also have to be honest and we have to look at society you know and I don’t know much about Norwegian society but obviously I live in you know I live in London and the part of London where I live okay every single week we are hearing about kids who are shooting each other who are stabbing each other who are killing each other we hear about perfectly innocent people being beaten to death by gangs of youth literally in front of their daughters in front of their children right it’s actually becoming so common that now they don’t even half the time bother even mentioning it in the newspapers right I mean you know this is the question you say you say that these punishments are violent these punishments are harsh right but what is happening to a society what is happening to our societies how about those people who are being beaten and stabbed and killed right how about those people who are having that don’t they have rights don’t they have the right isn’t the purpose of law to protect the society isn’t the purpose so when you send people to prison right now you may argue and you see we all want to achieve the same thing we all want a peaceful society but you will say no we are humane okay we don’t do these barbaric things okay well okay fine that’s in my opinion just polemics right but what do you do you send people to prison and I’m not I don’t know about Norway but let’s talk about England for example right if it’s the same you’ll know what I’m talking about what happens in prison most of the time most of the time when people go to prison right they sit down with other thieves other criminals improbably they’ll sit down with people who committed worst crimes than they even did right and what do they do they sit there feeling oh I’m so bad I shouldn’t have done that I’m gonna be a good boy next time right you know you know what they do they sit down with other thieves and criminals and those other thieves and criminals teach them how to commit crimes right if he didn’t know how to pick a lot by the time he’s out of prison he’ll know how to pick a look if he didn’t know how to break out a univer he’ll know because you know what he’s gone to a university of crime no it’s serious he’s gone to a university or she’s gone to a university of crime and so when that person comes out are they thinking oh I’m not going to do this know this so I’ll do it better I’ll do it better next time and I won’t get caught because I’ve learned some new tricks that I didn’t learn before now you tell me does this stop the thief from stealing no 80% people reoffended does it society it doesn’t protect us in fact you’ve just made society worse right so let’s just forget the polemics right let’s forget the polemics let’s be honest right about what is working as a system because the whole point of laws is to protect society and to create a peaceful prosperous society you know but everyone I tell you something you know 20 years ago when I became Muslim I went down to speaker’s corner in London I stay you can see some of the videos probably of me standing up there are shouting away right and I wasn’t shouting because I was angry I’m shouting because the only way you get heard in speaker’s corner right and I’m standing there and one of the things I used to talk about right is the evil of interest right the evil of interest and the system and the economic system that is based upon interests and I used to talk about how the whole interest based system is controlling it’s a new means to control and colonize the third world and it’s very cruel and it’s very evil right because they generate this enthusiasm through the propaganda through the media propaganda which we talked about yesterday right who did the media support obviously they write what their advertisers want them to write okay okay I’m sorry to say many journalists are nothing more than intellectual prostitutes really they have they have intelligence but they prostitute it too ever is going to pay them and you’ll see they will change their mind one day they will be writing this next five years they’ll be writing that whoever pays them they’re right for them right and who is their paymaster the the newspapers and the magazines that depend and rely upon what advertising we went through that yesterday okay so these banks they create this not the banks but the society through this propaganda through the media they go to the third world they create in the minds and hearts of these people they perceive the needs for products they actually don’t need but they create that desire so what do they say to them how do you get these products how do you get them well you know if you want to buy our goods yeah if you want to buy our sophisticated Western goods of course we’re not going to we’re not going to accept you know I don’t know whatever the currency is you know Kenyan shillings or you know you know shelves or I don’t know what people know we need real amount of dollars pounds right but if you want you know dollars and pounds I will tell you what you need to do what you need to do is you need to grow cash crops things like coffee cocoa tea yeah and what you do is then you sell them to us now those things are valuable to us and we’ll give you dollars for that right so what do people do is they the land that the people used to use to feed themselves for agriculture yeah they then convert to cash crops huge swaths of land being converted to cash crops but of course what they don’t tell all of these poor people is they’re telling every other poor person to do the same thing so what happens according to the economic system when you have a glutes right of any particular product right you have an over you know if you have too much coffee too much cocoa too much sugar too much tea what happens supply and demand right the cost goes down the price is less right so you have all of these people producing these cash crops but there’s so much of it in the market so these people who thought they were going to get nice money for it what do they find lo and behold they’re not getting so much money for it okay the money they’re getting is less but they’ve turned their arable land into cash crops and now what starts to happen there people start to get hungry the food that the the land they used to grow food on they’re not growing food on there anymore they’re going correct cash crops they don’t have any food and who comes along the great compassionate Western nations they come along and they say don’t worry we’ve got heaps of grain we’ve got heaps of food we’ve got stuff you know you just need to buy it from us we’ll sell it to you right well we haven’t got any money don’t worry we’ll lend you some money yeah we’ll lend you some money all right but initiatives you need to make sure that your whole economic system is designed in a way that you can earn dollars and pounds and so on and so forth so what happens they get in a vicious circle they borrow money to feed the people right they need to turn more land to produce more cash crops but the price of that never meets their expectation then they need to borrow more money and then they have the interest on top of that because it’s based upon the river until the state that we have in the third world now that the interest on the debt is actually more than the debt itself that is total slavery that is so much more effective than sending armies right I mean why would I want to send my soldiers over there to get killed it’s just enslave them with debt right and you know what this is not only happening on an Internet this is happening to you you your average Norwegian your average but they don’t feel the Pitt well you know back in the days when I was trying to say you know it’s the same for you and you borrow money from the bank you’re becoming a slave it’s like feudalism all over again you become owned by the bank the bank becomes like your fool and what I was saying that the people are saying what are you talking about right what are you going on about look at the capitalists interest based system it’s made the world more prosperous it’s made the war world more successful look at it if its dominant and you know it’s like I was talking into the wind but you know what if you say to people today okay suddenly now when people have been hit by the credit crunch when they’ve seen that the banks is they are built on air when they’ve seen the reality of what allah said young hawk allahu river the allah will a face ribbit Allah God will you know he will make it nothing and today the world what we did seven no okay what is it seven hundred and fifty billion bush gave to the bank’s right and then now Obama another 850 billion right where did all that money go wait where did it go right and everyone is suffering now you know what now when you start talking about the Islamic finance system that Islam 1,400 years ago had a system of economics that is not based upon interest that is interest free that is based upon business and profit and loss sharing no suddenly suddenly people now are listening suddenly they say yeah you people have got something to say right although you know what 20 years ago we were just talking talking and no one was listening so the point here is that really what do we want we want the same thing okay we want the same thing we just have different you see that as Muslims we don’t believe that we as Muslims have you know we’re so clever and you know we’re so advanced and we sat down and we thought these things up for ourselves okay no the fundamental difference here the real difference is we as Muslims believe that what we have is from God we believe we have knowledge that is from the creator of the heavens and the earth the one who created us and knows us he knows our desires he knows our needs he knows human society he knows how we will react to certain things he knows how you respond to certain things god knows what punishments work and what don’t God knows what environment human beings need to live in to have the most prosperous and peaceful and successful society and where they can live in the best manner because God created us right so this is what it is based upon right our our belief is based upon that and that’s really what Islam then means submission to God we all submit in our life we all do things what is submission anyway let’s examine submission right when you submit what does it mean you give up something that you want or you desire right and you give it up in order to do something that someone else wants and someone else desires right now I’m sure the okay I guess that everyone in this room has parents or a parent right or a carer who looks after them yeah or who has had that in their life yeah okay most of us have right even if we were unfortunate enough to go to an institution still applies now I’m sure everyone would agree doesn’t it often happen that your mum and dad tell you to do something that you don’t want to do oh yeah of course there is right okay so when your parents tell you do this and do that or don’t do this and don’t do that although you really want to do that thing right or you really don’t want to do that thing but you go ahead and do it or you go ahead and abstain from it that’s submission you’re giving up what you want right in order to do something to that someone else wants you to do so you’re submitting you are submitting yourself to the will of your parents right now there are three different ways that people submit either we submit right out of love we submit out of love we submit because we love those people we love that person and we want to please them and we want to do you know we want to do something and we all do that right if you’re married that’s what it’s all about right you don’t do the washing-up you don’t want to do the cooking talking about men here actually and but you know what your wife needs help right you may not want to do it but you do it she asked you to do this to fix that to fix this but you go ahead and do it why because you love your wife right you love her you love your kids right you love your parents so sometimes you do things out of love but sometimes you do it out of fear sometimes you submit out of fear why don’t often why don’t we break the law why don’t I just part my car anyway my pocket in the middle of the street right I just do that in Egypt literally right you park your car in the middle of the street you go to the policeman you said here’s wet Guinea here’s one pound God my car he will stand next to your car for three hours right and he will guide it personally for one pound and by the way in those days you know one pound was a lot for a policeman since his monthly wage was like I don’t know five pounds right for us nothing right so you know can’t you just park your car okay no way right what happens if you park your car in the middle of the street huh and I’ve seen a lot of cars pot leave me in the way but what happens generally huh you get fine right is that it they take your car away do they have a toilet away and stuff like that and maybe peel it really chill that in Norway right but in England my god you know any little infringement your car is parked on a yellow line this will out of the zone that’s it kick it all away clamp right sometimes define you have to pay is more than the price of your car right okay so what makes you not do that it’s fear it’s fear you’re motivated by fear I’m afraid of the result I’m afraid of the punishment I’m afraid what’s going to happen to me if I break this law so therefore what do you do you submit you follow the law because you’re afraid of what’s going to happen to you if you don’t right and sometimes you submit out of just knowing that that’s the right thing to do you go to the doctor the doctor says listen I’m sorry but you’ve got cancer I have to operate on you if you don’t you’ll die in two weeks now who who actually wants to be cut open right does anyone actually one oh let me see what should I do for fun today let me get myself cut open right okay unless you know some gangster who wants some scars to show off right okay but apart from that you don’t want that right but you know what you know the doctors saying the right thing you know this is the right so you submit because you know that that’s the right thing to do it makes sense right if there’s any other reason why people can submit I don’t know but those are the three reasons so we’re all submitting throughout all of our life to someone or something right you never in fact I will challenge you to find a single moment when you are not submitting to someone or something I mean you can’t because as a human being you to submit to your biological desires you have to breathe your heart has to pump pump you know blood round your body you know you’re always submitting to someone or something you just never escape it throughout your life so submission is the reality of course there’s some things we submit to by choice because we choose to submit or not to submit right so we’re all submitting well what is Islam saying Islam is saying the one that we should submit to really in reality is our Creator is good because whoever you love God has more right to your love think about why you love people think about why you love your parents think about that well God created your parents God created your wife got created your husband whatever it is that you love God created that so surely have more reason to love the one who created those things than those things themselves so God has the most right to your love so therefore surely doesn’t God have the most right to your submission don’t you hat doesn’t have the most right that you should give in right to do what is pleasing to him to please him yeah see agreement the one that counts the baby okay and how about fear yes fear I’m not going to shy away from it I’m terrified of God whatever most terrifying you think you can think of the most terrifying pain and you know I don’t know you been in pain any woman who’s given birth to a child knows what pain is right and they say gout is more painful than childbirth right you know so like a you know gout is like a rheumatism severe form so we all experience pain how about emotional pain as well loss you know what and that pains a reality in the world right so that pain whatever that pain is similarly that’s something God has control over and God can subject you to even more pain if he wants to right if he wants to remove it you can move it so yeah I’m afraid you should be afraid God has more right that you should be afraid of him than anything else right and how about how about intelligence how about wisdom how about following something because it’s wise well God is the most wise he knows everything if I’m going to decide to submit to something because it’s sensible and it makes sense then God has more right that we should submit on that basis God’s knowledge is perfect and ours is imperfect so this is the logic behind the essence of this lab it’s said I don’t think that any person would argue with the logic of it right look we’re an actually says if this book is from God if this book is from God who else but a fool can reject it so I mean from the premise at least take the premise that if the Quran really is from God surely would any sensible person would agree right that the only choice we have is to do what the Quran says right if it is from God and we can argue about whether it’s from God and see this is the point people argue oh your your your religion says this your religion says that it’s got this punishment it’s got this thing it says if you treat this person in that way right but you’re missing the point because for the Muslim it’s all irrelevant in a sense about these details right because if we believe it’s from God if we believe it’s from the Creator right then that’s what I have to do I have to submit myself to what the Creator teaches to what the creator says that’s what it’s about and it may or may not and that makes sense to me but surely I can recognize that God understands me better than I understand myself and I’m sure how many people in this room has happened to them in their lives right these things your parents have told you I mean anyone who’s got kids know that don’t do that but how many kids even ten-year-old kids think they know better right lay along if you got a teenage son right now we’ll do it right you know you’re trying to tell them you know don’t do this it’s just not the right thing to do no they know better you don’t know what you’re talking about you you don’t know right you you haven’t lived the life that I have lived right you don’t know what this in the street like that out there right as wheezing with wit with fish oil at teens man it’s like okay you know and then what is it you know dad you were right can you get me a lawyer to get me out of prison now please you know yeah you are right so I mean it’s all happened to us right I think we’ve all done that true or not right so if that’s true just between human beings how about God isn’t it possible that you might think you know better right but in reality you don’t know better God knows better all right so our question as Muslims is this irrelevant you can go on and on about it’s and this and notice than that and your punishment this and your Koran this and this our question really is is the Quran from Allah or not we believe it is and we think we can prove to you that it is I mean when I say prove we can give you evidence that I don’t think any sensible person would reject that evidence right so this is the question right is so this is what our religion is based upon we surrender ourselves to the creator we were surrender ourselves to God because we believe that that knowledge that that thing that God has given us is from the creator of the heavens and the earth you know and God knows best God knows best what degree of fear is it that you need what threat of punishment is the right threat of punishment in order for a person to stop stealing what threat of punishment do you need in order to stop people committing adultery and fornication and how bad is that and what is the impact of that on society you may think it’s nothing right you may think that it’s nothing because some things and that’s another thing you can all experience sometimes you don’t only find out until a long time even until it’s too late and then you say oh if only I had known that in the beginning right you only find out it’s not that everything right straightaway that you realize oh that was the wrong thing to know sometimes you only discover that it was the wrong thing to do after a long time and this is a thing that God knows the long-term effects god knows what is going to happen over the long time sometimes even we human beings don’t live long enough we don’t live long enough to be able to see the effect of something could happen to generations ahead or three and our human experience doesn’t allow us even to collate that but God knows that God knows the effect right years down the line right of allowing this particular thing that is considered a sin you let people fornicate you let people you know participate in in certain acts and so on but you may think what’s the harm is you know this and that but you only sometimes know the harm down the line when it’s too late I’ll give you an example I’ll give you an example if you listen to some of my talks about women in Islam and I gave a talk about this in England just recently they might put it up on YouTube so you might catch it right and for those who’ve like like a bit more tough speaking from being you’ll find it there right you know look at this so called enduring revolution of the Western world the liberation of women okay no doubt right that women in the West previously have been extremely oppressed right there weren’t allowed property or when they got married right until today by the way most women they get married I think in in Norway they still they take their husband’s name yeah they become you know mrs. Benson right or whatever right okay and you know she wasn’t that before but now she’s that goes back to right not long ago when women literally were owned by their husband when she got married her property automatically became her husband’s property we forget right we forget that before is not long ago that women had no say in the society right they couldn’t vote they couldn’t inherit so they were very restricted so there’s no doubt in contrast to that what women experienced today in the West is really good but you know I’m talking about let’s look talked about that going back to the issue of long long term effects right you see this is the short term thinking in the short term west of the Western world in general thought that women’s liberation is a good thing in the perspective of getting women to work why because according to their philosophy a rich Society is a successful Society because what wealth equals happiness so the more wealth we have the more successful we are now what’s the point in having half the population staying at home when that half the population could be out working and contributing to the economy and making us richer and therefore making us more successful so there it starts no women you don’t want to stay at home you need to come you need to work right why do you want to stay at home you’re gonna be a slave chained to the sink slave to your husband slave to your children water you know is that you you beneath that right you’re beneath that you need to be liberated yeah you need to come you need to work right yeah earn your own money spend your own money huh okay and the women say well that’s good you know right so what happens women start going up to work okay what do we have right 20 30 years on right some economist starts figuring out oh gosh we’ve got a problem you know what the problem is right the problem is is that since women are all working and they’ve got now so enthusiastic about being liberated they’re not having babies anymore and what happens to a society where you stop having babies if no women have babies what’s going to happen to your population huh you’re gonna die out right you’re going to die out and lo and behold the Western world like a lightbulb oh dear our populations are dying out it’s true no it’s true and you know it’s true right I’ve got some real sincere advice for Norwegians if you’re afraid about Muslims taking over have more babies yeah plain and simple right but you know what I tell you the simple truth they won’t do it because they’re too addicted now right they’re too addicted but you know what this is the shortsightedness you know I mean you’d think it was really sensible women stopped having babies population dies od a problem for our country but no money money money let’s improve our economy right I mean it’s ridiculous it’s so simple right but that’s it that’s this you only discovered that to generate and you know what economists now they realize that when six no sorry when thirty percent of your population reaches the age of 65 which is retirement age the economy of your your country is no longer viable because the amount of money you need to spare spend on pensions and caring for old people exceeds the amount that your economy can generate and that is exactly what is happening in Europe now right and believe me I want to tell you brothers and sisters yeah they say oh we let you Muslims come here right we let you come here and you don’t even respect our ways right yeah rubbish right they need you so bad right they need you they need new people in order to repopulate the country and continue the economy that’s what they need right that’s what they need right and you know they would love to have white blond people like them right but the problem is Eastern Europe has a worse population problem than them right they their demographics are even worse generally in the industrial countries in Europe they don’t have enough people to repopulate okay and England is an exception you know why it was an exception because the immigrants are having more babies than everyone else that’s why right so don’t be fooled by this oh you better be grateful right take off your he jabs right anyway you’ll just fall into the same problem that they’ve fallen into you’ll get liberated we’ll stop having babies and then we’ll die out which may be what they want I don’t know right but anyway the point being apart from you know the silliness of it all right apart from the silliness of it all the fact is all I’m trying to illustrate by all of that right okay and it actually goes back to my point anyway to finish that what I’m trying to illustrate is how you can think short term and you’ll only realize when it’s too late the mistake you made right but you know what if we only followed the guidance of God right and you know what you don’t even need to be a Muslim it’s there in the Bible as well as Christianity used to teach that go forth and multiply Christians used to be concerned with having lots of kids because that’s not what what because that’s what God said they didn’t know about economics right then you know about economic theory they didn’t know about population demographics they did it because what God said do it right it’s the same right but you leave the guidance of God for the limited very limited confused notions of human beings and see what you end up with right and this is by no means by the way I don’t want to I want to counter something I am NOT saying that women shouldn’t be educated actually women should be more educated than men and the reason is okay the reason is because the one who teaches the children and who embarks with them morality and who teaches them and the future generations are the women okay women have skillsets that men do not have vocabulary with my me being the exception okay they have vocabulary skill sets okay they have the ability to communicate and that’s actually why in many places in the workplace women do very well is because they have very good communication skills okay and we live in a society that’s very much more industry based anymore as communication based right but those skills are built there by Allah actually is interesting in some of these things even if you believe in evolution or you believe in God you actually come with the same result you come with the same results you know evolution will tell you that you are women are you know biologically programmed for that and actually we believe that Allah created them so the result is the same right and so this is the thing we believe know that that Islam has the wisdom it’s that it’s not saying women can’t work and it certainly does not say that women should not be educated and you know anyone I don’t know how good can how big is beard is right goes around saying that women should not be educated we should blow up their schools he is mad he is insane right however I don’t really necessarily believe in fact I don’t really believe what I read in the newspapers at all right but that’s certainly not finished and women should be educated because they need to teach the next generation that’s very very important right okay and so Islam is really encouraging that okay and it’s LOM has this division of labor okay that’s right God has made men that maintains and protectors of women it’s the division of labor and it’s actually the most efficient way for Homo sapiens succeeded primarily because they divided labor according to evolutionary theory and Neanderthals failed because they didn’t Neanderthals failed because basically men and women did the same thing Homo sapiens succeeded because they divided labor between men and women right check it out interesting which makes you know European heading towards in the end of all times right okay so according to their theories okay so brothers or sisters the point being all I’m trying to illustrate is the benefit and the wisdom of following the guidance of God in our offense okay so this ultimately leads us to conclude right that the real question we have to ask the reasonable question that needs to be asked okay is what is the best way for us to reach the goals that we all have we have the same goals right now Muslims are quite happy to live in Western society and we will be good citizens and we will obey the laws of the country and by and large I mean that is exactly what our religion teaches us to do right it may not be God’s law but God tells us that we have to respect those laws in the country in which we live and we have to respect the you know the government and we don’t believe in violent revolution right okay if we believe in changing society is by changing people’s opinions and people’s ideas about what is the best way to do things right this is the process this is the way that inshallah the religion of islam teaches us right but you find it and this is what you find with the prophet and the time of the prophet the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he engaged the people he talked with them but it was not the Prophet and the Muslims who started fighting they were not the ones who started fighting it was the non-muslims who started torturing and killing and imprisoning and making the life of the Muslims terrible in fact they put up this for thirteen years it was so bad and so severe that many of them had to flee to Abyssinia a Christian country because of the difficulty they were being put through so the Muslims didn’t start it that’s not our way we don’t right this is the reality you know and I think that you know really this is something that should be reflective within the Muslims so as well my brothers and sisters really I want to give you all a piece of advice you know I want to give you all a piece of advice okay and a piece of advice I want to give you all right is I’ve been asked this again all we have been attacked by the media here in Norway we’ve been facing it three weeks of non-stop attack right it’s been going on and on and on what’s the solution that’s a very big question what’s the solution right but you know what there’s something you can go away with today right the real question I would like to ask you how many of you have got neighbors who are not Muslim hands up why isn’t your neighbor sitting next to you right here today right why is your neighbor not sitting right next to you today I’m not asking you to answer that question you can answer it to yourself and you can also think about how you’re going to answer to Allah when you meet along the day of judgment right okay the question is if you really want to know you see how many Muslims are there in Oslo about we got an idea 50,000 how many people live in Oslo huh so what percentage is that my mass is really bad ten percent right okay ten percent okay so think about that I mean I’m so a bit confused right if 10 percent of Oslo are actually Muslim and really if every Muslim was treating their neighbor the way Islam tells you to treat your neighbor I can’t see how any party who attacked Muslims would get an 80 percent increase in their vote right true or not yeah okay so you know what don’t go crying about the media this the media that right okay the media that’s the media that right you know what you need – we need to behave like Muslims brothers and sisters right we need to show that we can contribute to society we all want to make the world a better place in which to live we all have that same objective we may disagree about the means that we use to achieve their end but our goal is the same right we all want ultimately the same things there’s no disagreement with amongst us about that okay so brothers and sisters I’m really pleading with you that the best thing that you can do is learn to be good Muslims is behave the way the religion teaches you with the right morals the right character right the kind treatment think how’s a Muslim you can contribute to society make it a better place and you know what actions speak louder than words right we can give speeches we can give talks we can but let’s actually show through our example and through our behavior okay really what our religion is about this is the best thing that we can do brother this is a do sokoloff there that’s it for this talk you well the question is about different sects in Islam and this year and the suddenly and what do I think about that and what I think about people who say I’m not share or Sunni or you know I just follow the religion of Islam and so on I mean ideally yes we would love to be able to say yeah I just follow its lamb I follow the Quran I follow the Prophet and to tell you the truth that’s what I say to people sometimes but in reality it’s not always helpful you know that’s not always helpful because when you’re talking to some people right it is actually useful to be able to identify yourself okay say no I don’t think that this particular idea is right or I don’t think that particular idea is right and the way we do that instead of explaining it all is we just you know give a title to it you know like I’m suddenly or I’m Shia or I’m this or and that or whatever so it explains yourself something about your outlook yeah and the way you perceive things but in reality brothers and sisters very shortly and very succinctly you know we should follow what the prophet salallahu alayhi wa selected is said in this regard which is authentically narrated from him and it’s also something that reflects the generality of what is in the Quran that clearly mentions the prohibition of us splitting into sects and into groups and thus prohibitions in the Quran about that are very strong and the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam he said cling to my Sunnah and the son of the Khalifa Raja Deen and bite it with your teeth and beware of the new things in the religion so this is what we should do we should follow the Quran as is explained by the Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam or else we will give any interpretation we like to the Quran no we need to understand the Quran the way the Prophet explained it and who are the best people who understood the Prophet the people who lived with the Prophet sallallaahu use Allah they saw the Prophet pray they were with sallallahu alayhi wa sallam of the Prophet when he fasted when he made hatch so when he lived the Quran and they saw that so they are the ones who really understood what was meant best and so the best of them were the whole of Russia D meaning abu bakr and omar anoke man and ali first of all but all of the companions especially those of knowledge like abdullah IBN abbas okay and our herrera and Abdullah even Mossad and you know these are some of the scholars from amongst the Sahaba so if we look to their guidance if we look to their understanding this is more likely that we are going to find the right understanding of Islam okay and that’s really what we should try to emphasize on and if we all did that then I’m not saying there will not be any differences you know of course there will be differences you know what is important is to understand the difference what is important is to understand the differences that are permissible and there are some differences that are permissible and there are some that are not there are some differences that are a product of permissible interpretations and there are others that are not that is really important to understand the difference between those two things yeah because we have to follow the guidance and I find the only one and I don’t mean this you know people take this in the wrong way but I what I mean to say if there’s only a few of us following that guidance rightly and everyone for whatever reason is not I don’t let go of the guidance to just join the big group ya know what is I have to follow the guidance alright so this is something very important challenge is Alcala for your question sister Malik Musa you know my question is who general oh c’mon it goes back is an instruction that you have personnel office suite isn’t that fucked up Ali said I want to know we are not here in this world we were condemned to leave this world moon gate and we are condemned to suffer the because of the beat that our forefathers by a demand easy okay and a he had proved every caught with your echo and 15 years at me there are 114 architecture development Iraqi was mentioned only Quran okay but I cannot understand is that first of all I am an e-book person I know myself but you I have there are pretty a good amount of people that I hate I hate them from the bottom of my heart is that but still if I see pie observe with my eyes that they are suffering for being punished because the theme that they did is me I do not accept okay so my question to you is that why is God which is so merciful so kind oh dear and so great okay he first of all eight people okay and for the second he also enjoys punishing them the afterlife okay and why should you not forgive the sin of our forefathers 894 just is that’s great and okay I think we get the idea brother okay yeah I don’t know if anyone came to my if anyone came to my lecture yeah if anyone came to my lectures yesterday you know within that lecture is contained something of an answer to that yeah and something of the answer to that is first of all I would have to say that with all respect to the questioner it’s the most strange thing I ever heard from a human being that I hate people with the bottom of my heart but I can’t bear those people to be punished I think if that’s really what you mean I just can’t you know understand that you really hate them that much the the reaction of most human beings is when you really hate someone and I think history bears her evidence to this yeah is that they take revenge in fact most of the best movies are the revenge movies all right because you just think yeah you give it to them right you know you rape kids you did this you did that take him out you know and you when you see it you feel and that’s just a movie right so if that really happens to you in the human condition right what you have said I’m sorry contradicts what I have observed what history tells us about human condition you know no you can’t because it will have a long discussion between you and me okay secondly okay the second thing is is that your mother taught you something wrong okay so maybe there’s the root of a problem there right if you’re brought up with a wrong idea from the beginning what comes from that maybe a wrong idea okay you see No allah subhanaw taala did not create you know suffering life is a test yes life is a test okay so this is the reality and sometimes the test is not suffering sometimes the test is in pleasure in fact the worst tests sometimes are from pleasure all right why did the prophet sallallaahu leave us I don’t leave a greater test for the men of this Ummah than the women right weights because you know what there’s such suffering who may be but you know it’s because of the pleasure of the woman okay so not all the life and the test of life is from suffering okay but we have to go back and we have to say and listen what we follow is this as Muslims what we believe is this we ask the question is there a god or not we talked about this yesterday the argument and the brother is only reflected that argument is the argument of the atheist which they put forward is an emotional argument the argument about suffering in life and so on and so forth is nothing to do is as to whether God exists or not yeah it’s got nothing to do as to whether God exists on earth right we talked about how do we know that God exists we went through that I can’t go through that all again right then we ask the next question is the Quran from God or not and is muhammad the messenger or not now really some people could look at this world and by the way they have and they have said that the god of this world is a cruel God who loves punishment and torture and this and that right and even you will find the way they worship that God is by doing these type of things right so some people may have reached that conclusion but it doesn’t mean that there is not a god we have to go back and we have to say is there a god or not okay and we can say yes how do we know there’s a God because we live in an organized system eyes universe and the most you know sensible explanation is that there is a creator but then if we want to answer these questions why why is the world like this why is there suffering why are these things why is this what is going to happen okay after we die then that’s not knowledge that we can get from our intellect we can’t that’s only knowledge that you can understand from revelation that’s only knowledge you can understand from revelations only if God tells you this is the reason you have been created this is what is going to happen when you die and this is what we believe the Quran contains if allah subhanaw taala punishes people in Hellfire for eternity and to say that God enjoys it I don’t know exactly where that’s from okay okay but certainly if Allah punishes someone and he will most certainly punish people with the most terrible and severe punishment more than we can even imagine and the people will stay there highly dina fijo they will never come out of the hellfire right where god will roast their skins and recreate their skins and roast the skins so they can taste the punishment and that’s the weather nerves are if you get burnt once if you is a scientific fact if you get burnt once you don’t feel the pain after that so Allah will create the skin again so they can continue to experience the terrible pain right so yes there is no doubt the Hellfire is a punishment even beyond what you can possibly imagine but if Allah punishes anyone in the Hellfire that is most certainly because they deserve it and I will tell you the other thing it’s because they chose that they chose it Allah does not pick people up and just throw them in the Hellfire randomly this thought that lot paradise Hellfire this and that whatever like we throw cards on a table or something like that no right people who go to hell go because they chose to do that they chose to take that path they saw it clearly they knew this was the path to hell and they continued upon that path and they chose it they knew that’s what they were going and they chose that they got what they deserved right and actually the injustice the injustice of denying what is Subhan Allah if you just think what Allah is asking there is one hadith for me really this sums everything up a man will stand in front of Allah on judgment and Allah will say to him all my servant if you have the world and everything in it would you now ransom that to save you from the Hellfire and he will say yes my lord and Allah will say to him I asked for you less than that I only asked that you should worship me and worship nothing else besides me that’s all Allah asked it’s the only thing Allah asked that we worship Him and we don’t make shit and we don’t worship anything along with him that’s it so Allah is asking from us but you couldn’t even do that so what do you deserve what does that person deserve so there just their punishment is just and unless Allah Tala punishes them justly and that is what I believe absolutely so whatever it is they get that because that is what they are deserving of right and whoever chooses to obey Allah then you know what they don’t deserve paradise because whatever you do and however much good you do you don’t deserve you can never earn paradise by your deeds in fact the prophet mohammad salallahu alayhi wasalam said no one goes to paradise because of their deeds they said not even you Rasool Allah he said not even me unless Allah bestows his mercy upon me paradise you cannot earn it because the beauty and the blessing of paradise is way beyond whatever amount of deeds you can do that’s the mercy of Allah that is the mercy of Allah right and how is the mercy of allah the mercy of allah is this right if you do one wrong deed allah marks it down as one wrong deed you do one wrong deed allah marks it down as one wrong deed if you think of doing a wrong deed but you stop yourself from doing it although mark sit down is a good deed if you intend to do a good deed and even if you don’t do it Allah marks you down is a good deed if you do a good deed and you fulfill it Allah rewards it 10 – 700 and then Allah multiplies it on top of that that is the mercy of Allah right and then you know what however many sins you do whatever you do even the prophets of allah alayhi wasalam he said if your sins were as great as the heavens and the earth the heavens and the earth my god our galaxy it’s ten thousand light years across our galaxy and is one of millions in the known universe but if your sins were as big as the heavens on earth and you were to ask Allah to forgive you and you are not making any partners with him not only would Allah forgive you but he will actually give you good deeds nearly as great as the evil deeds that you did to replace it that is the mission so you know brothers and sisters what does the person who turns away from that mercy what do they really deserve you know Allah is the most just this is what I believe brothers and sisters and Allah is the most merciful he is the most compassionate he forgives those who seek forgiveness so all of us brothers and sisters let’s turn to Allah right now let’s make tawba for our sins cuz we’ve all got sins and this our loss ask ask Allah subhana Allah to forgive us for all the evil that we have done I mean you’re a Balala me then what excuse me – you asked us a question before the break and I’m sorry my English is no problem because of taxes on come from straight longer hearts and us the house of our intentions and I think everybody good intentions I think these bodies for 800 brake system because we may be celebrities and political for big countries they are try to make a picture of a thousand people but they are exactly on my question is what the religious fight was my cell phone which is visible there since I come from England and always have to win hi everybody today I will seek all this you people she make them smile thanks very much they don’t understand why the government some people and especially the media he hate Islam so much beforehand senticles is very civil are born here and different villages will sell why the be he assumes yeah she brother I think anyone who came to my talks yesterday will probably understand because I explained that I talked about how every society is trying to get you to conform to a particular ideal they call it socialization so every society has a type of idea that they want everyone to conform to yeah so if you break away from that idea yeah you feel threatened but you know I think the other point being is that maybe we are in if we say that we are being too kind because there are certainly politicians and people who are just happy to rely upon people’s ignorance and fear that’s it and actually sometimes very sadly a society will try to create a state of fear in order to continue to control people if you want to watch a very very beneficial program that talks about this you should watch a program called the power of nightmares the power of nightmares the documentary I’m sure you can find it on YouTube yeah was produced I think by channel 4 or the BBC and it is exactly about this how the media and the governments are using Islam in order you know fear of Islam in order to control people in order to control them because one of the way you control people is through fear so it’s a very very worthwhile program to watch that I want to go back to the first thing that you mentioned brother right again what and I I’m sure this is what most people understood but what I really meant you see as I said about paradise is that you can’t whatever you do you can’t deserve paradise however much good you do you don’t deserve it because the good of paradise is way beyond whatever you could earn with your deeds and that’s how I feel about being a Muslim I feel about Islam that the peace and the tranquility and the joy and the happiness and the guidance that that Allah has given me in my life through being a Muslim is way beyond any good things I could have done in my life to deserve that you see so the goodness that Islam has produced the benefit that Islam is produced in my life for me personally is so much more than whatever good deeds I could have done but I’m sure the brother is right that you know if people in Sharla have goodness in their heart you know spell allah subhanaw taala would guide them to Islam you know but I have to say I think when I first started practicing Islam I actually used to think maybe Allah is just you know making me Muslim and then I would leave his land so he’s gonna punish me even more because of the bad things that I did because when I started thinking about all the things that I had done right I just thought how can I deserve how can I deserve this mercy how can I deserve the mercy of Allah and I swear it was only the brother was mentioning it was only the user I used to open up the Quran and I used to read bismillah – under him in the name of Allah the most compassionate the most merciful it was seeing that again and again I just kept on thinking you know reminding myself Allah is the most compassionate and Allah is the most merciful so again you know hamdulillah that Allah guided us to Islam brothers and sisters and you know there’s another thing I wanted to mention and I didn’t get to mention this because it was so long time but it is something I really think is so important you know brothers and sisters I don’t think that most of you can ever appreciate the reality of how lucky you are to be Muslim right and I will tell you why I’ll tell you the difference between me and you those of you who are born into Islam it may be that you’ll do her on things it may be that you will fornicate and you will and by the way please don’t let Shaitaan make an excuse in your head and say oh after him he smoked marijuana or abdul rahim he had girlfriends and he was okay in the end right you don’t know you’re gonna die and you don’t know that you may go further from islam right so don’t let Shaitaan do that to you but back to my point even if you do all of those things and you do worse every one of you knows where to go back to don’t you you know okay I do this I do that but I know that I can back to Islam you know you know that there’s a place to go back to you know this the Koran you know there’s the guidance of Allah how about the person think about this how about a person who doesn’t even know whether is guidance or not he is so confused that she’s so confused they don’t even know you can’t possibly really imagine how deep is that darkness you know imagine this whole school this whole university is in pitch black and you find yourself in here and you’re wandering around and you don’t even know if there’s a door that leads out you don’t even know that do you think that’s the same as the person who knows that somewhere there’s a door and if I get that door I can step out what if you don’t even think there’s a door what if you don’t even know there’s a door how is the despair of this one just compared to the confusion of the other so this is the darkness of someone who doesn’t even know that Allah has sent guidance it doesn’t even know there’s an answer so al hamdulillah blessing really of Islam for that one is soul so we really subhanAllah when you find it you saw you appreciate it because you really find that hamdulillah there is that way that you have found that Allah subhanAllah fellow has guided us you know I heard something about really nice about Norway about Norwegian culture that I really liked it when I was I was looking at all those statues you know the statues of all the people make it and the kid I was thinking as a side point you know you know that little screaming kids reminds me a little bit of Norwegian politics right now all right because really honestly for someone to say to someone to say yeah that Muslims are taking over because they want halal food and separate prayer rooms reminds me of that little screaming that little screaming kid and honestly that’s the sort of stuff you’d expect from you know the kindergarten kindergarten yeah I mean pretty says how you say yeah okay you don’t expect that from mature grown-up people oh and I wanted to mention the really nice thing that I heard about Norwegian culture yeah I remember now you see any really beautiful thing I don’t remember what it’s cool because one of those words is a bit tricky but you’ll remind me we were going around those statues and we were talking about actually I was saying apart from of course statues not being something allowed in Islam and unity like that’s not something we really approve of but I said actually it’s something that was really nice because what was it was talking about all of it seemed to me Allahu Alem to be about family about people and about family was a lot to do with kids family men women fighting loving thinking this and that but it was all and you know throughout history statues have been about what the prince the king the general that this and that but these were the statues about people right and their lives and you know and I thought it was just something quite touching and then their brothers were telling me you know something about Norwegian culture is that it is considered really bad to show off yeah and so he said even for example if you’re a businessman and you go to a business meeting in you know a really smart designers shoe and you’re why you’re like trying to show off and this and that I’m the sickest and the smartest that he said you can even lose the business deal because of that right actually they are very you know Norwegian culture you’re supposed to be very modest and not to show off as if that is a really beautiful thing mashallah that’s a really nice cultural habit to have I like that also means I don’t have to walk around in a suit that was in Norway under low which is the nice thing you know so I was just pointing out that’s a really nice characteristic this is the last question the last one please oh and is written down I can’t believe this is the question you’ve asked the last question yeah now that we live in modern days how can we marry more wives and still say it’s fair and he was saying the one about you know sex in Islam is not relevant I mean you know ok brothers and sisters ok I will give you my perspective I will give you my perspective on this brothers and sisters I will tell you absolutely I think polygamy is mashallah one of the beautiful things that Allah SWA mattel is given to this religion it is a truly beautiful and amazing thing and it’s a gift Allah has given in Islam that’s what I believe and I believe that if people practice polygamy properly it would be a blessing for the woman first of all and for the man actually secondly right I believe also that polygamy is actually really prescribed for the benefit of the woman more than it is prescribed for the needs of the man right and I’m talking about women in general ok and the reasons for that are because it allows the those sisters who are divorced or who are widowed or not or whatever ok to find an opportunity of companionship with a man that and I’m talking from real experience this is true not just in the past but today as well that they will not be able to find in a halal way otherwise ok so there are many many these are just some of the benefits of polygamy there are other benefits that we could list if it was practiced properly ok is that the sisters and that’s how it should be the sisters in Islam could help each other to educate children to care for the families ok to mix together to live together to support one another the benefits educationally emotionally economically socially if it was practiced properly absolutely tremendous so I reiterate that polygamy is one of the great blessings that allah sunnatullah has given this religion obviously from the man’s point of view it permits the man – you know satisfy certain desires that he might have that would not be able to be satisfied only by one woman okay so these are some aspects of the man but of course with it comes responsibility however brother it’s the last question there’s no point putting your hand up no okay so so on the other hand brothers and sisters I have this to say okay I have this to say the reality for us living here in the West is first of all first of all that polygamy is something that although we know that many men have wives and girlfriends and mistresses and visit prostitutes at the same time in the West we know that including the presidents of America right including the Prime Minister presidents of France right I think even I don’t know if Denmark or this is quite a few they come out of the closet and we find that when they die they have wives that they have mistresses who have kids a whole separate family so we see this going on and it’s perfectly acceptable to them right but for some mysterious reason for a man to do this legally and openly right it’s something they don’t accept but that’s a fact polygamy is not something that we have been ordered to do in Islam it’s something that is an option that is there if it is needed but my general opinion about the reality of polygamy okay is that it is something that for all practical purposes is very very difficult to practice and to do it fairly in the West and that the reason for that is because number one financially the burden is huge just in order to support one family the burden is huge in order to do that so there’s the financial responsibility secondly there is the question of time the way life is in the West is that we are so busy being minced by the mincing machine right so busy working so busy spending so much time working and if we add to that brothers and sisters the efforts that we should be putting into giving dower right and the efforts that we should be putting into improving the community in the society in which we live we should take up a lot of our spare time okay you and in fact in reality find that you will not have time to do that so you know my position concerning myself personally for example is I don’t see how I could be fair or just to my wife and my children if I was to get you know if I was to get married again because as it is I don’t spend enough time with my wife and my children as it is I don’t give them as it is the full rights that I should give them and that’s part of the nature of the society in which we live and that is something that you have to take into account when you think of these things because you have a responsibility your wife is not only your wife right she is your sister in Islam as well you have duties and responsibilities okay to your wife and to your kids and it’s very very important that you do not oppress your family okay so these are things that should really read be considered now I’m not giving a fatwa here that this is haram or this or that or whatever okay but the reality is that I generally believe that you know if brothers come to me and say oh brother I really want to get married again I say no I know brother you really want to get married again believe me I really want to get married again you know but don’t do it just don’t do it okay no brother this and I said no brother don’t do it you want my advice don’t be patient right find find what you need from your wife because it will destroy you it’ll break you it will break your family one or the other it will break this wife or that way so if you really don’t really want to see your kids very often and you want it to end in disaster I’m not saying it will it may and sometimes something luck you know people do manage your brothers and sisters do marriage you know to do this thing properly and to benefit from it all of them and it happened some that there are good examples but unfortunately those good examples are not many partly because the men do not know how to treat women properly and the women do not know how to treat the men properly and the truth is we don’t feel unlawful Matala not enough that’s the reality we don’t fear Allah enough right so that’s my advice you know yeni you can take it or leave it if you ask me in this society I think by and large to get another wife generally it ends up being not fair basically because I think the wife and the kids suffer in a way that in other times and other situations they wouldn’t it’s just my opinion it’s not a factor I lost bonnet Allah knows best you can take it or leave it so brother and sisters

12 thoughts on “Islam: The Misunderstood Religion! – LECTURE – Abdur-Raheem Green

  1. @GOLDSILVERDUDE Explain your comment. Why is he a "psycho path"?? He's making clear, concise and logical arguments that counter mindless and irrational views held by some ill informed people. Now of this 1 hr 40 min lecture,which part made you think he was a physco path?

  2. If muslim people didn't misunderstand it they wouldn't be living in Islamic dictatorships or comitting terrorist attacks in the name of allah! Please explain Islam to Muslims who misunderstand it all over the world!

  3. people it is almost just muslims who are rude to jewwish people. in my high school the word jew was used as a curse word. muslims students called eachother "you dirty jew" everyday for 1 and half years. i heard from people in oslo that muslims students are using jew as a curse word in their school too. now this abdur Raheem green is lying by saying it is europe who is discriminating, harassing jews. totally wrong. dere i islamnett vet at det er muslimer som driver med hetsing. "jævla jøde"

  4. Sura 18, note 1524-1525 MMA 5th and 7th editions !!! EUROPEAN INTERCEPTIONS !!!!! ZINDEEQS!!!
    "THEY WOULD WEAKEN ISLAM FROM WITHIN"

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